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[able]

Thursday, November 15, John Coleman, the founder of the cable TV Weather Channel and currently TV meteorologist in San Diego at KUSI began a series of short briefs trying to explain in simplified terms for the layman why he does not believe in global greenhouse warming on his KUSI climate blog.
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/11338421.html

Below was his original statement that got much national attention. KUSI and Icecap received hundreds of emails, better than 90% favorable, thanking John for his courage in speaking out on this issue and thanking KUSI and Icecap for covering the news the networks won’t cover. There were of course some negative responses mostly ad hominem attacks questioning motivation as is typical in this issue. Some requested John follow up with some concrete facts in understandable terms and he will begin to do that. The first brief on that link will address the ‘hockey stick”.

By John Coleman

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an illusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus. Read the rest of the original blog here.
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/JC_comments.doc

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/
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[Von Curtis]

Isn't it incredible how things are unravelling very fast lately. The established elite in many countries that cannot recognize change and adapt to this big coming wave will go under.

[Kim]

1. John Coleman is not a climate scientist, so why do you believe his views over those that are?

2. John Coleman has not published any peer reviewed papers on climate change, so why do you believe his views over those that have?

3. John Coleman is part of an organisation backed by fossil fuel interests, so why do you believe the views of vested interests?

"The Web site domain name for ICECAP was registered on October 20, 2006 by Joseph D'Aleo, who is listed among the personnel of the Science and Public Policy Institute, another organization that promotes the views of global warming skeptics that is backed by the Frontiers of Freedom[2]."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ICECAP

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Frontiers_of_Freedom

4. Why do you imagine sections of the Global elite who are fighting to the bloody death in order to preserve their right to consume fossil fuels have any interest in curbing that use?

5. What, beside fossil fuels, will maintain centralised control?

Basic research tools folks:

a. Is this person qualified in the field?

b. Have they published relevant research in the peer-reviewed science press?

c. Are they connected to funding from the fossil fuel industry?

[Kim]

PS - and those sections of the "Elite" that have half-heartedly woken up to Global Warming (credit where credit's due), have only done so because they realise the consequences will completely fuck-up their bottom line. Hence the seemingly confusing spectacle of some sections of the powers-that-be spruiking for the right thing, even if some of their "Solutions" are unworkable and inequitable (nothing new there).

The other sections only care about their shot of Viagra . . . even if they expire in the process (nothing new there either).

[Von Curtis]

Much of global warming is a scam and a money making racquet. I'm a farmer and a scientist and have lived on this property fpr 22 years and have had it hot,dry,cold and wet and everthing is just the same as it was back then so if there is a bit of climate change it is mighty slow. It keeps some academics in the city in a job pushing out a lot of paper and the carbon trading idea is more nonsense, and gives governments another reason to tax us. The only thing it may be a bit good for is making people in the city care for nature and the development of solar energy and other forms of power.

[Kim]

[shiizaa]

[able]

i post it to gain opinion....

its another person coming against global warming and not a slur against any posters....

im fully aware of where you stand on the debate kim
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[Von Curtis]

Yes Kim you stay there reading your peer reviewed journals on global warming while I'll stay in the bush enjoying the birds, the trees, the animals and the crops we grow in the beautiful countryside just the same as I have for the last 22 years not worrying about global warming at all.
And just as a last comment on this subject , there are growing numbers of rural producers who are speaking out against arrogant city-based academics in the bureaucracy who are completely impractical and know nothing about food production (except what they read in a book)pushing their phony science and short term solutions.

[Kim]

[Von Curtis]

Some climate scientists would be like financial advisors who are part of the system and make bucks out of pushing an idea or product for short term profit. Even Johnny Rotten Howard and gay Downer hopped onto the global warming bandwagon to push uranium mining and the nuclear power industry on to us. They said we could have nuclear power plants all along the coast and that would save us from global warming. Its a pity that we haven't got a character like Chavez in this country and make Australia for Australians rather then selling our soul to big multi-national corporations and their zionist controllers.

[Kim]

[Von Curtis]

I know I shouldn't be saying this on this thread but if you don't understand Zionist Jews and Zionist evangelical Christians particularly in the US ,Britain. Australia and France and the desperation of them all to keep Israel the way it is or even bigger then you don't understand a huge chunk of the 9/11 evil.

[Kim]

[Chris_Morganti]

It's great that they are facing resistance.