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[Hereward]

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"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ...
All these dangers are caused by human intervention
and it is only through changed attitudes and
behaviour that they can be overcome.
The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome,
The First Global Revolution,
consultants to the UN.

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"...we need to get some broad based support,
to capture the public's imagination....
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any doubts....
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest."
- Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology
lead Author of many IPCC reports

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"We've got to ride this global warming issue.
Even if the theory of global warming is wrong,
we will be doing the right thing in terms of
economic and environmental policy."
- Timothy Wirth,
fmr US Under Sec of State,
current Head of the UN Foundation

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“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice and equality in the world.”
- Christine Stewart,
fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment

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“The only way to get our society to truly change is to
frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.”
- emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

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"We are on the verge of a global transformation.
All we need is the right major crisis..."
- David Rockefeller,
Club of Rome executive member

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"We are close to a time when all of humankind
will envision a global agenda that encompasses
a kind of Global Marshall Plan to address the
causes of poverty and suffering and
environmental destruction all over the earth."
- Al Gore, from Earth in Balance

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"We need a new paradigm of development in
which the environment will be a priority...
World civilization as we know it will soon end...
We have very little time and we must act...
If we can address the environmental problem,
it will have to be done within a new system,
a new paradigm. We have to change our mindset,
the way humankind views the world."
- Mikhail Gorbachev, State of the World Forum

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"The concept of national sovereignty has been immutable,
indeed a sacred principle of international relations.
It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to
the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation.”
- UN Commission for Global Governance report (1999)

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"Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and
it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely.
Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well
suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature
of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected
representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.”
Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution

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"The emerging 'environmentalization' of our civilization
and the need for vigorous action in the interest of the entire global
community will inevitably have multiple political consequences.
Perhaps the most important of them will be a gradual change
in the status of the United Nations. Inevitably, it must
assume some aspects of a world government."
- Mikhail Gorbachev,
Club of Rome member,
State of the World Forum, 1996

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“A New World Order is required to deal
with the Climate Change crisis.”
- Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister

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"In my view, after fifty years of service in the United Nations system,
I perceive the utmost urgency and absolute necessity for proper
Earth government. There is no shadow of a doubt that the present
political and economic systems are no longer appropriate
and will lead to the end of life evolution on this planet.
We must therefore absolutely and urgently look for new ways.
- Dr Robert Muller,
UN Assistant Secretary General

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“Regionalism must precede globalism.
We foresee a seamless system of governance from
local communities, individual states, regional unions
and up through to the United Nations itself.”
- UN Commission for Global Governance report (1999)

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"The alternative to the existing world order can only emerge
as a result of a new human dimension of progress....
We envision a revolution of the mind, a new way of thinking...."
- Mikhail Gorbachev, State of the World Forum, 1996

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“We require a central organizing principle - one agreed to voluntarily.
Minor shifts in policy, moderate improvement in laws and regulations,
rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change - these are all forms of
appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that
sacrifice, struggle and a wrenching transformation
of society will not be necessary."
- Al Gore, from Earth in the Balance

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"Adopting a central organizing principle...
means embarking on an all-out effort to use every
policy and program, every law and institution...
to halt the destruction of the environment."
- Al Gore, from Earth in the Balance

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"Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound
reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world
has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both
governments and individuals and an unprecedented
redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift
will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences
of every human action be integrated into individual and
collective decision-making at every level."
- excerpt, UN Agenda 21

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“The current course of development is thus clearly unsustainable.
Current problems cannot be solved by piecemeal measures.
More of the same is not enough. Radical change from the
current trajectory is not an option, but an absolute necessity.
Fundamental economic, social and cultural changes that
address the root causes of poverty and environmental
degradation are required and they are required now."
– from the Earth Charter website

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"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the
industrialized civilizations collapse?
Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"
- Maurice Strong, former Secretary General of UNEP

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“I envisage the prinicles of the Earth Charter to
be a new form of the ten commandments.
They lay the foundation for a sustainable
global earth community.”
- Mikhail Gorbachev, Club of Rome member

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“The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many,
doing too well economically and burning too much oil.”
– Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview (2002)

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"...current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the
affluent middle class - involving high meat intake,
use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning,
and suburban housing - are not sustainable.
A shift is necessary which will require a vast strengthening
of the multilateral system, including the United Nations."
- Maurice Strong, founder of UNEP,
opening speech of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit

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"Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a
pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor.“
- Sir James Lovelock,
Healing Gaia: Practical Medicine for the Planet (1991)

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"I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history,
but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in
the number of game animals and the need to adjust
the cull to the size of the surplus population.“
- preface of Down to Earth by Prince Philip

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"A total population of 250-300 million people,
a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
- Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor

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"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth
as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
- Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh,
patron of the World Wildlife Fund

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"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against
society, unless the parents hold a government license.
All potential parents should be required to use
contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing
antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
- David Brower,
first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

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"Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the
world's scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a
major catastrophe that could send our entire planet's climate system
into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods,
droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have
ever experienced - a catastrophe of our own making."
- Al Gore, An Inconvenient Truth

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“Climate Change is the greatest threat that
human civilisation has ever faced.”
- Angela Merkel, German Chancellor

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“...climate change is real. Not only is it real, it's here, and its
effects are giving rise to a frighteningly new global phenomenon:
the man-made natural disaster.”
- Barak Obama, US Presidential Candidate

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“We simply must do everything we can in our power to
slow down global warming before it is too late.”
- Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California

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“Climate change should be seen as the
greatest challenge to ever face mankind.”
- Prince Charles

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“Climate change makes us all global citizens,
we are truly all in this together.”
- Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister

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"The fate of mankind, as well as of religion, depends upon
the emergence of a new faith in the future.' Armed with such a faith,
we might find it possible to resanctify the earth."
- Al Gore, Earth in Balance

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“What an incredible planet in the universe this will be
when we will be one human family living in justice,
peace, love and harmony with our divine Earth,
with each other and with the heavens.”
- Robert Muller,
founder of UNESCO

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"The earth is literally our mother, not only because we depend on
her for nurture and shelter but even more because the human
species has been shaped by her in the womb of evolution....
Our salvation depends upon our ability
to create a religion of nature."
- Rene Dubos,
board member, Planetary Citizens

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"It is the responsibility of each human being today to
choose between the force of darkness and the force of light.
We must therefore transform our attitudes, and adopt a renewed
respect for the superior laws of DIVINE NATURE."
- Maurice Strong
(former Secretary General of UNEP),
opening speech of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit

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"The spirit of our planet is stirring!
The Consciousness of Goddess Earth
is now rising against all odds,
in spite of millennia of suppression,
repression and oppression inflicted on Her
by a hubristic and misguided humanity.

The Earth is a living entity, a biological organism
with psychic and spiritual dimensions.
With the expansion of the patriarchal religions
that focused on a male God majestically
stationed in Heaven ruling over the Earth and the
Universe, the memory of our planet's innate Divinity
was repressed and banished into the
collective unconscious of humanity."
- Envision Earth

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“Still more important is the implication that the evolution of
homo sapiens, with his technological inventiveness and his
increasingly subtle communications network, has vastly increased
Gaia's range of perception. She is now through us awake and aware
of herself. She has seen the reflection of her fair face through the
eyes of astronauts and the television cameras of orbiting spacecraft.

Our sensations of wonder and pleasure, our capacity
for conscious thought and speculation, our restless curiosity and
drive are hers to share. This new interrelationship of Gaia with man
is by no means fully established; we are not yet a truly collective
species, corralled and tamed as an integral part of the biosphere,
as we are as individual creatures. It may be that the destiny of
mankind is to become tamed, so that the fierce, destructive, and
greedy forces of tribalism and nationalism are fused into a
compulsive urge to belong to the commonwealth of all
creatures which constitutes Gaia.”
– Sir James Lovelock,
Gaia: A New Look At Life

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"Little by little a planetary prayer book is
thus being composed by an increasingly united
humanity seeking its oneness. Once again,
but this time on a universal scale, humankind is
seeking no less than its reunion with 'divine,'
its transcendence into higher forms of life. Hindus
call our earth Brahma, or God, for they rightly
see no difference between our earth and the divine.
This ancient simple truth is slowly dawning again upon
humanity, as we are about to enter our cosmic age
and become what we were always meant to be:
the planet of god."
- Robert Muller,
former UN Assistant Secretary General,
founder of UNESCO

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“What if Mary is another name for Gaia? Then her capacity for
virgin birth is no miracle . . . it is a role of Gaia since life began . . .
She is of this Universe and, conceivably, a part of God. On Earth,
she is the source of life everlasting and is alive now;
she gave birth to humankind and we are part of her.”
– Sir James Lovelock, Ages of Gaia

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“Nature is my god. To me, nature is sacred;
trees are my temples and forests are my cathedrals.”
- Mikhail Gorbachev,
Green Cross International

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"The spiritual sense of our place in nature...
can be traced to the origins of human civilization....
The last vestige of organized goddess worship
was eliminated by Christianity."
- Al Gore , Earth in the Balance, page 260

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"I pledge allegiance to the Earth and all its sacred parts.
Its water, land and living things and all its human hearts."
- Earth Pledge, Global Education Associates

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"By fostering a deep sense of connection to others and to the earth
in all its dimensions, holistic education encourages a sense of
responsibility to self to others and to the planet."
- Global Alliance for Transforming Education

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"The earth is not dead matter. She is alive.
Now begin to speak to the earth as you walk.
You can speak out loud, or just talk to her in your mind.
Send your love into her with your exhalation. Feel your
heart touching upon the heart of the planet. Say to her
whatever words come to you: Mother Earth, I love you.
Mother Earth, I bless you. May you be healed. May all
your creatures be happy. Peace to you, Mother Earth.
On behalf of the human race, I ask forgiveness
for having injured you. Forgive us, Mother Earth"
- “Prayer to the Earth”, US Student Textbook

[Von Curtis]

Some of them are beautiful and others like world government and other agendas put on us by some sort of elite are right off the track.

[shiizaa]

Thank you for these Hereward. Great collection.

[Lin Kuei]

Pure gold.

[able]

enlightening and frighting!

if i didn't know better i would think some of these people cared.

when world leaders seem to belong to the same clubs and associations one begins to realize how contrived world politics really is.

thank you hereward! i will read these quotes in times of doubt.
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what if i say i will never surrender?

[Hereward]

i found these on the truthaction forum - not sure if they are 100% genuine.

the message that i get is that there is a new earth religion coming under the banner of environmentalism.

this coming religion does not please me, for it's basic tenets seem to be about subsuming the individual into the divine hive mind of nature, gaia etc...
this sounds grand but in reality it may just be another ideology which will be used to crush dissent, enforce population reduction and dehumanise us.