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John Bursill
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 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: Speculation - 2 questions - Will Howard get his 9/11 and wil |
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I'd say No and No as after this latest terror fiasco I think and hope he has got cold feet!
We might I hope be at the edge of a change in political direction!
All speculation aside this is a crucial time and the next 11th may be our last chance to wake people up before the stakes are doubled! Therefore our actions will be doubled if a conection can be reached between us and them.
What do you think about the election plans of a desperate terrorist like Little John Howard?
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i have never been politically minded john.....
i think the current system of government that is spreading all over the world is spreading for one reason only....
its easy for special interest groups to pay and get the reality they desire....
our country's are run like corporations and that does not sit well with me...
if u Analise what has gone on in a country in the last 10-20 years with rule changes and privatizations u will not get the big picture... but when u see that side by side these same changes are happening all over the world it gets scary.....
john howard will be voted out this election but i have zero faith that rudd is untouched by the hidden hand.... in fact to my way of thinking he is there because he was willing to sell his country.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
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john howard will be voted out this election but i have zero faith that rudd is untouched by the hidden hand.... in fact to my way of thinking he is there because he was willing to sell his country. |
True words, just look at history, if he was not part of "the club" he would NOT be where he is today
its a provable fact i would say |
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Erik
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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What's causing me some concern and thought at the moment is, America using Australia as the next target for attack.
If you've been watching American news, you have "Al qaeda rebuilds", a new Osama tape, more hysteria and general fear mongering and Australia has a new G8 summit, would it make sense for America to stage an attack on Australians on Australian soil during a visit by Bush?
I don't know the particulars of the next Summit so If I'm wrong correct me..
What say you all?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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well there was those unidentified u.s agents caught with a suit case bomb trying to sneak past the German police at the last g8!
anyone with the australian G8 summit detail's please post!
with all the media time starting to be given and one look at the chatter of the truth sites it would be bad for them to hit there own people again as it would be the straw that......
yes erik i see your fear and also when America comes over here they get to run every aspect of the security and we let them!
we just get out of there way and close public roads for them!
there would be no searching of brief cases and would be easy to pull off here!
remember as the story went that the c4 was brought in just after bush decided to leave early!! might have to watch for the same pattern?
thoughts everyone??? am i being to cynical?
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rob_mcc
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| HAHA! Howard? Terror? Terror Mastermind? You give him way too much credit. |
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John Bursill
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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This is speculation....
Howard just puts in the order! Didn't you notice the terror delivery man came out a few months back; remeber the Cheney visit!
Well don't you know they(NWO) sent their operational commander out to get the size right!
Anyway I think Coward aint got the balls to do it and he knows he'll swing when it all comes down if he gets "his bomb"!
The neo-cons are dead ducks, just lets hope they fade away and don't go out with a bang!
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Erik
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| rob_mcc wrote: | | HAHA! Howard? Terror? Terror Mastermind? You give him way too much credit. |
I'm not saying Howard would, I don't think it's his style.
However Imagine this, 911 truth is massive in America, so the chances of them getting away with another False flag terror attack could be harder..
Solution, blow the crap outta some Australians during a US visit and blame it on Al-CIA-Da.
Possible?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Me wrote: | | able wrote: |
john howard will be voted out this election but i have zero faith that rudd is untouched by the hidden hand.... in fact to my way of thinking he is there because he was willing to sell his country. |
True words, just look at history, if he was not part of "the club" he would NOT be where he is today
its a provable fact i would say |
Look at the way Kim crapped on about the AWB scandal - his line of slander was "Howard was supporting the terrorists".
You see the deception? Inadvertantly Kim is promoting the concept that Iraq were terrorists. These guys are all just two sides of the same coin.
Another 9/11 in Australia?
If every ballot in Australia had Australian 9/11 Truth Movement party on it then NO. Not possible. The entire deception is undermined. Defeated. Ended. They would abort any such plans. |
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rob_mcc
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Focoist wrote: | | Me wrote: | | able wrote: |
john howard will be voted out this election but i have zero faith that rudd is untouched by the hidden hand.... in fact to my way of thinking he is there because he was willing to sell his country. |
True words, just look at history, if he was not part of "the club" he would NOT be where he is today
its a provable fact i would say |
Look at the way Kim crapped on about the AWB scandal - his line of slander was "Howard was supporting the terrorists".
You see the deception? Inadvertantly Kim is promoting the concept that Iraq were terrorists. These guys are all just two sides of the same coin.
Another 9/11 in Australia?
If every ballot in Australia had Australian 9/11 Truth Movement party on it then NO. Not possible. The entire deception is undermined. Defeated. Ended. They would abort any such plans. |
Oh cmon! Why now would ANYBODY in the NWO give two hoots about Australian politics? What part of the agenda does Australia play? IF Australia pulls out of the War then pretty much no-body notices.
Look Guys. IN AUSTRALIA THE PRIME MINISTER IS CHOSEN BY THE PARTY. Theres a vote amongs all the MINISTERS to decide who their PRIME (meaning No. 1) MINISTER will be. So the only way the NWO could affect who the prime minister is then they would have to infiltrate many of the members of the party. And if you think that Labor is also apart of the NWO plan. Then you'd have to say the ex-union drongos of the Labor party are also infiltrated and keeping the plan secret.
Look I have NO DOUBT that the govt. is milking the terror threat as far as they can. WHY WOULDNT THEY! Theyre politicians! And you'd have to admit theres at least a SMALL treat of a REAL terrorist attack. So the govts. claims arent entirely un-founded. But to use their political games as a reason to suspect they've got an agenda as far reaching and evil as the neo-cons plans is far-fetched. The reason the Neo-cons (which is a soft thing to call them) have chosen America as their host to blood such off of is becuase America has easily the most powerfull armed forces. Australias armed forces are AS WEAK AS PISS! (no offence but it's the truth)
Watch this excellent flash presentation which makes my point.
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end.php |
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Focoist
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| rob_mcc wrote: | | Focoist wrote: | | Me wrote: | | able wrote: |
john howard will be voted out this election but i have zero faith that rudd is untouched by the hidden hand.... in fact to my way of thinking he is there because he was willing to sell his country. |
True words, just look at history, if he was not part of "the club" he would NOT be where he is today
its a provable fact i would say |
Look at the way Kim crapped on about the AWB scandal - his line of slander was "Howard was supporting the terrorists".
You see the deception? Inadvertantly Kim is promoting the concept that Iraq were terrorists. These guys are all just two sides of the same coin.
Another 9/11 in Australia?
If every ballot in Australia had Australian 9/11 Truth Movement party on it then NO. Not possible. The entire deception is undermined. Defeated. Ended. They would abort any such plans. |
Oh cmon! Why now would ANYBODY in the NWO give two hoots about Australian politics? What part of the agenda does Australia play? IF Australia pulls out of the War then pretty much no-body notices.
Look Guys. IN AUSTRALIA THE PRIME MINISTER IS CHOSEN BY THE PARTY. |
the Prime Minister is chosen by the media. They can make or break any candidate they so desire. The Party choses the leader that they most likely think will win them the election - thats dictated by the media. |
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kimosabi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Focoist wrote: | | rob_mcc wrote: | | Focoist wrote: | | Me wrote: | | able wrote: |
john howard will be voted out this election but i have zero faith that rudd is untouched by the hidden hand.... in fact to my way of thinking he is there because he was willing to sell his country. |
True words, just look at history, if he was not part of "the club" he would NOT be where he is today
its a provable fact i would say |
Look at the way Kim crapped on about the AWB scandal - his line of slander was "Howard was supporting the terrorists".
You see the deception? Inadvertantly Kim is promoting the concept that Iraq were terrorists. These guys are all just two sides of the same coin.
Another 9/11 in Australia?
If every ballot in Australia had Australian 9/11 Truth Movement party on it then NO. Not possible. The entire deception is undermined. Defeated. Ended. They would abort any such plans. |
Oh cmon! Why now would ANYBODY in the NWO give two hoots about Australian politics? What part of the agenda does Australia play? IF Australia pulls out of the War then pretty much no-body notices.
Look Guys. IN AUSTRALIA THE PRIME MINISTER IS CHOSEN BY THE PARTY. |
the Prime Minister is chosen by the media. They can make or break any candidate they so desire. The Party choses the leader that they most likely think will win them the election - thats dictated by the media. |
Does anyone remember the main person Kevin Rudd went to see the last time he went to the US?
It was Rupert Murdoch
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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kimosabi....
perfect timing/perfect comment!
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rob_mcc
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| In australia I believe it's the other way around. The politicians try to manipulate the media as well as they can. The best manipulator wins. And Kevin Rudd is a CONMAN! A fake conservative tapping into Australias love for a non intimidating leader. The unions will intimidate the shit out of this country once this union scum is in power. |
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John Bursill
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Just so you know I'm a union member and proud of it!
If it wasn't for the unions our work & social experience would be back where it was before the labour movement.
You should stop making these base less acusations and generalisations about people joining together to fight for their rights!
Wake rob your speaking absolute rubish about something you obviously know nothing about! FY.....
John
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