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[Von Curtis]

Peter Russo just said on the radio he would defend Haneef all over again, no regrets. He said the Aust. govt and the AFP are enforcing draconian laws and stomping all over people's rights.
He said some people would like him to just disappear but he is not going to do that and he will support Haneef to come back to Australia as he wants to do as he has done nothing wrong and has nothing to hide.

[able]

hehehe a very large sore thumb!!!

i hope this innocent man continues his fight to come back to australia and finish what he started!!!!

shame on u john coward....
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[shiizaa]

In the early period of the Haneef case Russo spoke as if he was half baked, and as the case progressed, if you can call it a "progression" Russo then went on to appearing as if he was a stunned mullet,, and slowly but surely as things went from bad to unbelieveable, Russo seemed to have come up to speed with the "wicked wicked ways of the world". I dare say his take on Australian politics and the rule of law, is lot different now than it was BH.(before Haneef).
During this case, watching Russo start to wake up and smell the coffee was the most amusing aspect of this debacle. The entire event would have been hilarious if weren't so ridiculously cringeworthy.

[Von Curtis]

He was a cane farmer so he talks in the way we from the bush do,very down to earth, unsophisicated.
I think he was terrific they way he stood up to the AFP and the Aust. Govt. A lot of the judiciary are on his side.
We shall be hearing much more about this case down the track.
I'm afraid over the years in this country there has become a huge divide between the bush and the city, I really started noticing it in the early 1990's.

[Von Curtis]

Russo said last night there has to be an investigation into the AFP as to why Haneef was charged when there was no evidence.
Haneef's reputation has been destroyed.
In a court case next month Russo will try to get his passport restored.

[Von Curtis]

Russo has proof that Kevin Andrews through the AFP interfered with
the course of justice in trying to keep Haneef locked up.
This morning Kerry Nettle is calling for him to resign or be sacked.

[Hereward]

It is necessary to deconstruct the "Haneef Affair".

This did not all happen as a result of administrative bungling and over-zealous policemen.

In my opinion there is a much more sinister agenda at work here.

I would suggest consulting Naomi Wolf's breakdown of how a fascist shift works. In the early phase of a fascist shift regimes sometimes persecute "outsiders" to set a precedent for what is to be done later on a much larger scale to citizens.

The choice of Haneef as scape goat was deliberate and well planned. They knew the case against him would fail, but winning the case was never the aim. At this stage we are being introduced to seeing a demonised "other" put in a situation where presumption of innocence is denied. This is in preparation for using similar measures against our own citizens. It has no other purpose.

Haneef was freed because there is not enough fear in the society yet to prevent the standard mechanisms of our legal system to function.

In the event of a mass casualty attack in Australia, this will change. In such an atmosphere someone like Haneef would be detained indefinitiely, along with white suspects, and there would be no public opposition at all.

[Von Curtis]

I think for now we have started to turn the corner and we as a society are running away from fascism . Last night I saw Premier Bligh say that she doesn't want to bring tasers into Q'ld even though the police union are pushing for them.
The London police have been charged with the murder of the Brazilian man so things are unravelling. No doubt Kevin Andrews , the AFP and London police are all involved with framing Haneef.
They have got to make people hate Moslems so Israel isn't forced to compromise on its borders or hand over parts of Jerusalem, which would be a fate worse than death to them. On ABC radio today I heard Brendan Nelson say to some departing soldiers who were going to Iraq that they were like the soldiers that departed 92 years ago to rescue Beersheba from the Turks and founded Israel in Palastine. I couldn't believe my ears. Apparently the British govt. ( pushed by a Mr. Rothschild ) handed Israel over about 2 days after that battle. Lawrence of Arabia suffered terrible depression after that because he had promised the Arabs ( whom he admired greatly) their own state of Palastine if they fought with the British against the Turks and then he was double crossed and he never got over it. He died in a motor bike accident some think it was suicide. He would be very interested to see what is going on today and how it will play out.

[Von Curtis]

The Federal court in Melbourne this morning has gone against the previous govt. and upheld the descision of a previous judge to re-instate Haneef's work visa.

[able]

thanx for the update! excellent news!

they will think twice when staging fact "hyped" terror arrests!
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[Von Curtis]

There is pressure today on the Rudd government by lawyers to immediately have a wide ranging inquiry into the Haneef case as they promised before they were elected.
Peter Russo who was Haneef's lawyer said it needs to be wide enough to investigate the AFP and intelligence agencies and the former Howard govt. minister Kevin Andrew's.
( The govt. would like it to disappear under the carpet no doubt )

[Von Curtis]

Bill Kelty , head of the AFP is crying foul about the media and lawyers attacking his institution. In a speech last night he said there should be more respect for the AFP. Lawyers and journalists said the speech was a crude attempt to gain credibility. ( Gerrad Henderson supported him which would be no surprise to anyone here)
It will be interesting to see what the inquiry brings out.

[Von Curtis]

According to ABC news the enquiry into the Haneef case has started under the Supreme Court judge John Clarke. Former minister Kevin Andrews hasn't decided whether he will give evidence. A critic ( I missed his name) said the whole thing is a stunt because it doesn't allow for an inquiry into the intelligence from overseas. ( He would be right about that as the criminality is in the intelligence but if they looked at that it would blow up the whole Glasgow airport bomb hoax) )

[Von Curtis]

Lawyers are demanding more powers for the inquiry to force Kelty and Andrews to testify under oath and be cross-examined.