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Is there an sub intellectual "underclass" in the human race
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Does genetics cause the "The sheep mentality" In peoples heads
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Is there an sub intellectual "underclass" in the h Reply with quote

Ok, this is a hard one

I mean no insult with the word "underclass" i just could not think of a better word!! I DO NOT MEAN WE HAVE A SUB HUMAN RACE ON THIS PLANET. I use "underclass" for want of a better word. we are ALL equal, no matter how thick we are Wink

I am 41 years old and i have come to the conclusion that there IS some kind of genetic code that makes some people into the mindless naive slobs we see all around us every day.... It has to go further than how we were brought up. It is even happening in MY family... This is actually where i got the theory from, observing THEM.

lets face it, there ARE millions of people like this on this planet, and i really have come to believe that it is their brain and intelligence function based on genetics rather than some "dumbing down" that has done this to them. If people can have differewnt size heads, noses, toes or different lung capacity and heart strength, why not brain capacity as well?....

There are of course exceptions and in EVERY family an enlightened thinker can be produced

If i am right, then logic tells me that there is no hope for some of our population, they simply cannot comprehend more that deal or no deal and the rugby. They will shuffle along as told to the camps.

This of course does NOT mean they should be ignored, they STILL deserve the same "help" that we all are trying to give as we spread the truth.

debate away everyone
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate I have often pondered this, but I don't know if it's genetic or environment.

I actually think it abit of both. The old saying goes, "if you don't know that you don't know, how will you know?"

However there has to be something said for the masses of ignorant fools who just don't want to know anything.

I believe the schools make people like that aswell as poor genetics. What I mean by genetics parents who never had the instinct to be inquisitive, would probably pass on similar behavioural attributes to their children.

It makes you sometimes wonder why you do so much for the people who resent you, but ultimately, we have to do good for all, because WE make up the all and so do our children in the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in psychology the reoccuring debate is always Nature Vs Nurture. EVen for intelligence.

theres 3 theories, and the accepted one is that both contributes to the intelligence.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik wrote:


I believe the schools make people like that aswell as poor genetics. What I mean by genetics parents who never had the instinct to be inquisitive, would probably pass on similar behavioural attributes to their children..



I agree with this Erik, I, most parents these days come from a long line of sheepies, its like ingrained in their nature

Erik wrote:

It makes you sometimes wonder why you do so much for the people who resent you, but ultimately, we have to do good for all, because WE make up the all and so do our children in the future.


Fantastic quote Erik, My daughter will KNOW what freedom of speech is and more...

Even if this theory was proved true, we are still all one race.... Its just scary knowing that some of us humans wont ever know what hit them.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are full of shit!

WE are all human, some are less capable.

The people that chose to be ignorant of things that might harm them; have it coming, including the intellectuals!

They still choose, and what you offer is not better than what they know, so they choose not to know. Is that so demented?

The point, at which they will question things, is when they feel the pain of oppression. This is how it has always been!

This discussion is pointless and immature!

Your snobbed….lol..

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Bursill wrote:

The people that chose to be ignorant of things that might harm them; have it coming, including the intellectuals!


John, dont get me wrong i dont really mean this sort of ignorance, I mean the sort of person who does not dress properly, is rude, does not EVER think about others AND on top of that cant get beyond the weekly shopping trip and who activly think hollywood is heaven.... The sort of person who has no actual concept of ANYTHING outside the house and the TV, in ALL aspects of life.

Its like their only intelligence is for survival and breeding

These people cant even comprehend what they read in the papers, let alone believe it, they rely on cliches and misquotes to make conversation and are basicaly a waste of space to most... of course in their own family unit this is not the case, they are valued members but you know what i mean

These people are not intellectuals who are simply blind to facts, they are thick moronic bigoted drones who ALREADY are slaves to the machine...and they are all around us...i think

surely you see them too??

Im sure its genetic

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me,

I suggest that, by proposing that it's "genetic" you are perhaps unconsciously adopting the ideology of the ruling elites of this planet.

This is eugenics. This is their way of de-humanising us.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that you've used the concept of "genetics" as a way of simplifying the explanation for a very complex situation.

This is a lazy, arrogant, condescending attitude like the "gay gene" idea or the "schizophrenic" gene idea.

When you try to reduce complex social realities down to mechanical biological explanations you hide from the truth. This leads back to eugenics again.

It is wrong, absolutely. There is no doubt in my mind about this. Enough said.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i picked no before reading the posts and i see there is no need for me to comment as its been said already.....

discussing the idea is repulsive to me and opposite the very reason we are here!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No ME. When I first told my parents about 9/11 I wasnt'sure whether they believed me or not, whether they were just going along with me because they were worried that I was mentally ill and didn't want to lose me.

I sat my father down who has an honoury BSc in biological sciences and I showed him Profesor Steven Jones' thesis. I had to force him to spend the time. I had to take his hand, sit him down, and varify that he had read every word and watched every cited video evidence.

But after showing him, mum and dad continued to be fuckwit sheeple watching mainstream Today Tonight. And what ensued was 12 months of fighting with them. Even though he didn't deny that yes obviously the towers were controlled demos.

Finally they are moving away from their TV addiction - its the same as smoking I've learnt. Yes I know that it will kill me but I still do it.
I'm a chain smoker actually.

But gradually they are moving over to the internet.

This is proof to me that it is actaully a programmed addiction - this sheepleism, collective stupidity shit.

One woman discovered definite evidence that the American education system had been deliberately designed to promote this chimp think.
You can read her book at:
www.deliberatedumbingdown.com

You see., my observance of my parents' reaction and their one year to finally, at all my impatience, to realise that the teleivision, like cigerettes, is killing them slowly, is anecdotal evidence that it has been actaully a programmed venture. Not genetic as you fear.

Thank mercy its not genetic. Nonetheless, people who ACTIVELY defend the 9/11 Official story on the internet and act as our adversaries should in my opinion be hunted down like the Nazis were. All of the Usenet posters, all of the forums, all of these people we can find out who they are thanks to the intel of the same organisations we will ultimately depose. They have traces of these mongrels. I want them to fear the possibility that indeed we WILL hunt them down. Hallaeon - Beware. You and your ilk are the greatest criminals of humanity of this generation and we WILL hunt you down and bring you to face the people for judgement so that our children can live in the carefree abandon that we thought was safe to live.

Don't fuck with HUMANITY is my answer. No., its not genetic. Fluoride - Toothpaste and tap-water; don't drink it. You can get sem-Fluoirde toothpaste. Its actually cheaper in Australia. Fluoirde in tap-water is forced medication whether you agree it is good for you or not. The fact is its addition is FORCED. That should be enough of a key to tell you its being done to dumb us down.

Yes ME, they are exceptionally dumb. Humanity has never been dumber.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post Foco, a shame about the end bit. A little strong, but as usual heart felt!

This debate is over, Erik will you archive this?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Bursill wrote:


This debate is over, Erik will you archive this?

Regards John


its not over at all!!!!

How can you archive a post thats only 15 hours old??? 59 hits and TEN replies... id say it was still a happening thing!!!

Let it run!!!!!!

Look, i AM being take wrong here,
I will try to explain it again

I am talking about different brains in the same was as say, big noses, large hands, long legs, strong heart, good immune system, or the like...

I am NOT saying that just because we have different brain functions OR capacities that we are any "less" or "more" human I am just saying some people are genetically thick, and have been for generations....

so far its an equal vote!!!!!

that hardly is a sign of debate over hey???
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

911oz wrote:
Me,

I suggest that, by proposing that it's "genetic" you are perhaps unconsciously adopting the ideology of the ruling elites of this planet.

This is eugenics. This is their way of de-humanising us.


Of course not!!! i thought of this before i posted this thread..... i am NOT saying thickos are sub human...far from it.... just that they ARE thickos, and so were their parents, and their parents parents!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Bursill wrote:
Good post Foco, a shame about the end bit. A little strong, but as usual heart felt!

This debate is over, Erik will you archive this?

Regards John


that maybe a little heavy handed - i think the people have voiced their consensus that this eugenicisit argument is lame as hell.

And, by the way, i did NOT vote. I refuse to legitimise the question by voting.

For me it is not on the table for debate - it would be like voting on whether negroes are stupid or jews are evil. But it's in the off topic forum and it's under the wire in terms of our forum rules.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

911oz wrote:
John Bursill wrote:
Good post Foco, a shame about the end bit. A little strong, but as usual heart felt!

This debate is over, Erik will you archive this?

Regards John


that maybe a little heavy handed - i think the people have voiced their consensus that this eugenicisit argument is lame as hell.

And, by the way, i did NOT vote. I refuse to legitimise the question by voting.

For me it is not on the table for debate - it would be like voting on whether negroes are stupid or jews are evil. But it's in the off topic forum and it's under the wire in terms of our forum rules.


Its not like that at all hereward, its like saying "ooh that family are very tall", or "that family all have big ears" or "that family have not had diabetes in their family but mine does, why?"

I will say it again i DO NOT see these people as "sub human" or "different humans" just THICK ones that are like their family!!!!

Im not even saying ALL members of the same family are like that, there are exceptions to ANY rule

do you at least understand that point???!!!

also, by poo pooing the thread you ARE discussing it!!!! so vote away!!!!
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