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Loose Change is weak truth currency.
I guess it is hardly surprising that the national exposure opportunity
for 9-11 truth would be steered in this direction.
Was it not In Plane Site that was aired on Australian TV.
We are up against a formidable and clever enemy.
Unfortunately many "truth seekers" are also new to the study
and understanding of political realities.
The Loose Change crew may not be aware of the manipulation
of their work.
Ego is a very powerful tool in the hands of skillful manipulators.
As an activist one of the most important aspects of the solution
is training ourselves and others to think clearly and independently
alert to the diabolical sophistication of propaganda.
The concept of false opposition and the creation of perceptions that
a debate is taking place to satisfy the public is a key thinking point
for any political realities class.
This type of discussion with those we hope to "wake up" is just as important
as the A,B, & C of 9-11 questions and facts.
My friends, the problem we are dealing with is very deep and requires a
renewed thinking and social dynamic. We must learn and teach.
We need to be competent at these broader aspects of the 9-11 issue if we
are to achieve some worthwhile and lasting success at releasing more of the freedom potential of our communities.
Kevin Barrett discusses the fraud of Loose Change and why Popular Mechanics is happy to debate them on mainstream teleivsion
On 11/11/06 Kevin Barrett sent a warning to Loose Change directors that should have registered in their egotisticle heads that they are being used to destroy the 9/11 Truth movement's credibility:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3384033683607569418
At 22:00
"I can understand why NIST will not debate Scholars for 9/11 Truth, they have been repeatedly invited to come to these national 9/11 gigs next year, they repeatedly turned us down. Likewise the Popular Mechanics guys - who are these kind of low level version of NIST - are not real anxious to get into any real debate format either. The closest they will get is going on Amy Goodman's Democracy Now, and going up against the Loose Change directors, these three kids in their early 20s, but they're certainly not rushing forward to debate the likes of Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan. Anyway, my argument is that the truth is definitely out there and it hasn't been seen by those with eyes to see"
So clearly a very diplomatic way of saying that Loose Change is an embarassment to the 9/11 Truth message.
You can find the Amy Goodman Loose Change appearance on YouTube. Note that Avery and Bermas constantly refer to arguments and evidence that only appears in their Loose Change 2nd Ed film. They neglect to go outside of that box and cite the far more compelling and irrefutable evidence of witness testimonies to demolition events at the WTC such as those critiqued by MacQueen and Griffin.
Popular Mechanics is more than happy to debate the Hoaxers Avery and Bermas.
Loose Change, thanks to COINTEL, will be appearing on Rosie O'Donnell's THE VIEW
So just like I said, why is it that out of all the thousands of people who have been involved in making stunning 9/11 Truth documentaries is it Loose Change makers who are always invited on to the mainstream press? How much you want to bet that Rosie wasn't allowed to get anyone else to appear? She originally said she would get a physicist. Why not a panel of academics from Journal of 9/11 Studies? Or from Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice? Why two little punk film maker grads who admit themselves that they started making Loose Change as a hoax film? Who have neglected to update the serious flaws in their film for over 12 months and continued to rely on their film's evidence in debates rather than go outside that square and cite more recent and credible testimonies and documentaries such as those which emerged in August 2005 in the 9/11 Oral Histories, as written about by David Ray Griffin and Graeme MacQueen?
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-Twin-Towers26jan06.htm
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf
Why do they always shamelessly promote their Loose Change 2nd Ed and who has been paying them to print out 100,000s of copies of the DVD and distribute it for FREE to all the Truth groups?
And yet for over a year they have been promising of a final cut which addresses all the serious unneccessary flaws in their film and yet where the hell is it? Meanwhile millions have been sucked in to promoting Loose Change as though its the only gospil on 9/11.
Millions of hours of 9/11 Truthers' energy has been wasted on defending Loose Change.
I tell you these idiots Avery and Bermas should be hit by a truck. That would be the best thing that could happen to them.
Reply to Chris
Chris, one think I can predict with certainty is that the film Loose Change has done immeasurable damage to this movement because it has half a dozen unneccesary serious flaws, if not deliberate hoax deceptions and yet Loose Change's Avery and Bermas have continued to promote their film for over a year, printing out 100,000s of copies and allowing the mainstream media to banner them as the iconic leaders of 9/11 Truth and at the same time destroy all their credibiltiy. Avery and Bermas are film school grads. They made the film Loose Change because they said they wanted to make a film which would get them known. They still act like all they care about is fame and this is apparent in the fact that despite a year ago having been warned that their film was dangerously flawed, rather than fix it up quickly, they have continued to promote it and to allow it to be promoted.
So i am saying God Speed remove any reference of that film on this website unless it is to denounce Loose Change. If you do that then I will stop accusing 911oz of being disinformants.
There is no reason why you need to promote Loose Change anyway. They have been promoted all over America for free by the mainstream press. Someone has been funding them too because they have been handing out 100,000s of FREE copies of Loose Change 2nd Ed - the critically flawed film.
I was just spending the last week on Mark Dice's www.resistencemanifesto.com
I now have no doubt that Mark Dice is CIA payrole COINTEL. Despite acknowledging receipt of the warnings about the Fritz Springmeier video he links to being disinformation (in the last 30 minutes of the video Fritz claims that the illuminati has a human colony living on Mars and that the US government has aliens who have lived on earth for 500,000 years flying UFOs for them), despite my warning him about Loose Change and everyone in the forum agreeing, both these links he neglected to remove from his homepage after two weeks. They are still there.
I wrote about 30 pages in total and the work of others replying to me and entering mature and careful discussion about the Israel Lobby and Loose Change being a disinformation film comprised about 100 A4 pages as of today. All that has suddenly vanished from Mark Dice's website.
There were a few disinformation parrots at the start of my postings whom, despite my non-hateful careful factual cited arguments about the Israel Lobby and 9/11, the neocons (who everyone in Washington refers to as the Zionist jew mafia) still attacked me as "Nazi" etc..
Now, as of today, 100 A4 pages of fantasic work vanished from Mark Dice's forum. My account has vanished, and all the people who were tabling solid cited evidence of Israel complicity have also vanished. I had won all of the intellectuals on that forum over to my assertions and they were actively corroborating and denouncing the ad hominem attacks coming from the posters I quietly knew were Mark Dice's COINTEL sockpuppets.
This is the kind of ruthless disinformation we are dealing with.
And so I ask that 911oz, above all else if you want to tred carefully regarding the Israel Lobby problem, then at least please be careful not to promote their 9/11 Truth disinformation, one of which is Loose Change.
A little on why Loose Change is disinformation? I could go on and on. But why don't I just show you one single instant and that should prove it alone shoudn't it? They've had over a year to fix it rather than continue to run off prints, probably a million prints of their DVD in the last year.
Here is the clip that Loose Change shows you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck
Someone has perpetuated it in that clip.
Here is the full clip which shows you it was a deliberate deception of the film makers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAZRU-omIpU
Need I say more?
Here is an example of how easy it is for the mainstream and popular mechanics to slander and misrepresent our movement using those instances:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TubHeXnsk0c
If you type Loose Change into YouTube there are over 4500 hits. Thats the kind of waste and red herring destruction I'm talking about. Loose Change must be denounced. When the new movie comes out DO NOT PROMOTE IT. You do not need to promote it. The mainstream press will do that for you anyway. We must be very careful when this film comes out. If there is any strawman in it then we must denounce it.
I posit that Loose Change has cost the 9/11 Truth movement researchers and activists about 1 million hours in wasted energy. It has single handedly almost struck us a deadly blow.
I can't believe that people still defend this film and that people still so naively defend these two little punks Avery and Bermas. They are FILM MAKERS looking for FAME. They don't care about 9/11 Truth, if they did care they wouldn't have allowed this to happen. Whenever they go on mainstream television, such as an interview with Amy Goodman up against Popular Mechanics, they only ever refer to the evidence they have in their film Loose Change. Its over a year old!!! Since Loose Change was released in 2005 the 9/11 Oral Histories testimonies have surfaced thanks to a Court of Appeals ruling in August 2005. This is the evidence we must focus on. The work of Journal of 9/11 Studies should be referred to all the time. Do not refer to Scholars for 9/11 Truth. You realise that Morgan Reynolds is running around claiming no planes hit the towers, and that Judy Wood is claiming that directed energy beams brought down the towers? Steven Jones left Scholars for 9/11 Truth because of this
COINTEL infiltration.
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A final note before I forget. We can't depend on YouTube for archiving our videos alone. We must download any video's we find there in case they disappear later.
Just have a look at my last year's PlayList and how many of the videos now have the red mark "Video Unavailable" next to them:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E9D6B34B49D65836
There is a great Firefox plug-in for downloading these videos as flv files.
Search "Video Downloader".
Also Sumo.tv has a great plugin too and is a good way to quickly bookmark/mirror your favourite videos you discover across the net. Sumo.tv actually rips the video and downloads it to their server for you.
Sumo.tv is also superior to YouTube because it allows you to search ALL video archivists at the same time (not just YouTube)
This is a tough fight. There are indications that the enemy are falling but we never know how far they will fall and whether they will get back up and throw more punches.
The Jewish problem and 9/11
I'm posting this in addendum to all my other posts regarding this issue with the irrefutable evidence indicting Israel's involvement in the 9/11 false-flag attacks and the general problem of Zionist Neocon control of US foreign policy and most western governments.
The following 20 minute documentay is a sincere non-hateful and hopeful approach to this problem and a way to reconcile with the truth of the matter and denounce hatred and blame of world jewry whom of which many are victims alike of this great perversion of our justice system:
http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/nazishrunkenheads/
If you don't watch it then you won't know what I'm talking about.
Making Sense of the Rediculous.
This new video will frighten the enemies of truth.
A very excellent study of those puzzling aspects of 9-11 evidence.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=347655064407137426
It will be very interesting to observe how this material is discussed
around the 9-11 lists.
911oz - Let's be grown up!
An expansion of 9-11 truth and the freedom potential we believe it will release, is impossible
without a strategy grounded in the correct principles of knowledge, logic, respect and justice. Any other attitude is simply foolish, tragic, futile and self defeating.
Can any behaviour of this nature be genuine?
Jake, I certainly am never squemish about confronting the realities of Zionist power, Israel's conquest over Palestine, exagerated Jewish claims of persecution {including false gassing and extermination claims} and the reverse writing of "Jewish" authority and power into our history books and Christian texts.
I also believe that the evidence we have before us demands that the activities of many Zionists, "Jews" and citizens of Israel are high on the list of suspects that must be brought before an honest 9-11 investigation and cross examined.
This confrontation must at all times be factual, intelligent, compassionate and grounded in a faith that the rule of law works and is the only lasting solution.
If we cannot harness and focus our frustration towards positive activity we are already defeated. Surely we wish to ignite hope and opportunity.
The enemies of truth celebrate when the knowledge that exposes their crimes comes in a
form that is heartless and flawed. Sensible people, for very good reason, are repelled.
In fact, it is hardly wild speculation to suggest that the enemies of truth would not have the slightest problem in funding all the necessary false opposition, conflict and "truthicide" repellant to extirminate any outbreak of genuine honest endevour on the Web.
This is the only logical and intelligent conclusion justified by thinking people with a memory.
Jake, I can only speak for myself, but I find it impossible to take seriously the aggressive and
reckless attitude you express as having any real worth while purpose unless it is to damage the genuine and honest purpose of others who are clearly serious about the 911oz truth project.
Knowing every association and word I write is potentially a weapon to be employed to destroy my many years of honest research and engagement with the political and social life of humanity I felt compelled to state my opinion of, and objection to, any way forward that is not civilized and law abiding.
The "jewish question" is a highly complex subject with many layers and shades of ambiguity and contradictions by design. I agree it is a very relevant and essential subject.
Many fly about the globe on jet aircraft, but all cannot and will never comprehend,
the science of flight.
I might also add that just because I believe in taking our cause forward with civilised manners that does not exclude challenging and confronting those that must be questioned and brought to account with the passion, firmness and focus of a sledgehammer strike.
We must confront the lies with a ferocious belief in our vote and it's authority over our political and public servants but our game must be one of chess not bar room brawling.
We must trust and believe in the honest power of our vote, not the farcical power political charades of elections, the pure honest birth right of one person to expect another to know, think and justify the policies and ascents of our society, made by positive act or silence.
No one should be left unchallenged.
On every occassion I meet with my political and public servants I consciously wield my vote
and expect nothing less than it be heard, respected and answered.
My expectation is not always fullfilled.
Those with power over us depend on our fear.
How many times have I heard that whining excuse that "we can do nothing to change the situation we find ourselves in".
Mostly, this cry is the excuse of people who have never in fact contemplated the possibility
seriously. Our task is to inspire that something better is achievable and sow the seeds of knowledge that equip people to make a difference.
Jake, I make no claim to judging your motivation or purpose and I certainly share the frustration and anger of those who battle against the tide of insanity.
What I can predict with certainty is the negative results of your actions.
YouTube using AI censorship?
So you have Youtube account? I only ask because this has happened twice and I want you to try it:
Paste this comment:
"We all know it hurts. But we the people were commanded by the
founding fathers to NEVER trust the government less we foresake our
Constitution. We the people have spoken and warned you that the Gov is
lying about 9/11. We the people are your friends and don't you EVER
forget that. "
TWICE a comment of mine relating the founding fathers and the
consitution has been blocked by youtube with this error statement:
"Your comment has not been sent: Either because it contains a Url or
an email address"
I havn't seen this error statement before unless I'm posting a url or
email address or something about the founding fathers and the
constitution,.
I AM NOT KIDDING!!!!! TRY IT!!!!
These two comments parsed posted successfully without problems:
"We all know it hurts. But we the people were commanded by the
founding fathers to NEVER trust the government less we foresake our
Constitution."
AND
"We the people have spoken and warned you that the Gov is
lying about 9/11. We the poeple are your friends and don't you EVER
forget that. "
'What must be avoided is any fanaticism about any particular media, personality or group.'
I agree. We must not let the fact that it was the jews become so fanatical that we blame ALL jews or incite others to. Most jews are so stupid and full of themselves that they don't even realise how they are being used by the Zionist oligarchs who control their 'state' of Israel.
But none the less - IT WAS THE JEWS.
THAT IS NOT OUR FAULT.
If you want unashamed honest objective reporting on how it WAS THE JEWS then look at www.iamthewitness.com
Check out even the BBC documentary THE WAR PARTY BBC DOCUMENTARY
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4667039539703585825&q=THE+WAR+PARTY+BBC+DOCUMENTARY
They expose the FACT that the Neocons are ALL JEWS and are in control of Washington.
Anyone avoiding the fact that 9/11 was Israel and their Neocon American traitors are covering up the truth about 9/11. We deserve to know the truth. We owe it to ourselves to speak truth to power. This is the powerr that be and this is the power we will destroy.
This is WAR. And on 9/11 Jews of the World (1933) declared war on the west. Now they have their war and our soldiers, not too tired from deceit in the middle-east, will be sent to Israel to remove the regime and hang them and put them up on Youtube next to Suddam where they belong.
Loose Change & Terror Storm
Everyone must be free to promote their view as they choose but I agree that Loose Change and Terror Storm are sensationalist and emotive material that lack real intellectual strength.
If I had a choice I would never recomend these media or promote them as authorative.
I don't even believe 9-11 Mysteries is top quality research.
The David Ray Griffin lectures are probably some of the better media material that set out the contradictions and questions that must be investigated.
http://www.jonhs.net/911/david_ray_griffin_pattern.htm
What must be avoided is any fanaticism about any particular media, personality or group.
There is so much we do not know about the events of 9-11 we should exercise great caution
with regard to all information.
What we must encourage is a judicious, rational and logical scrutiny of everything.
Until such time as a constituted legal investigation is able to examine all the evidence
we must refrain from drawing conclusions that are speculation.
We do have solid evidence that our government and it's agencies have lied to us in the past
and it is only reasonable that our representatives provide us with the legal evidence to
justify their war policies and the erosion of our freedom to scrutinize and question the process of our government.
Encourage everyone to enquire and contemplate exactly what legal evidence can be found to
validate the 9-11 Muslim conspiracy theory.
There is nothing more precious than our rule of law and our freedom of speech.
I have a suspicion that over time we will be allowed into some of the "secrets" of 9-11 with new explanations and reasons that will satisfy the broader public as they come to know
of information that conflicts with the current "official" narrative.
Concerns that clever misdirection might damage the best efforts of honest seekers of truth
are valid but careful statement of aims in a scientific constituted format provide the atmosphere for diverse views but focused aims in terms of principles.
In a free society we cannot make it illegal to be of a different mind to ourselves even if
the motivation is misdirection or dishonesty.
Intelligent thinking people can deal constructively with these issues.
What this reality illuminates is the essential requirement for people to hold firmly to their independence knowing that organisation can be very useful and productive but only to the degree that it serves the individuals involved and their aims.
An organisation must be set up intelligently so it serves but does not control.
Under this approach the misdirection or fool is limited in the damage their activities can achieve.
I would never establish a group that did not have incorporated into it's articles of aims and principles some basic historical literature on propaganda and agent prevocateur strategies
that have been commonly employed by power to poison honest political activity.
This type of knowledge is what I refere to when I suggest that without a complete understanding of political realities genuine people can be destroyed easily by the strategies and tactics of power.
When you understand power, the opposite occurs, the attempt to manipulate your message becomes an opportunity to expose the tricky and illegitamate strategy.
I must confess I relish these opportunities with the media or polititians because once exposed most people quickly see the truth.
The spell is broken briefly.
Re: Please Consider Carefully
Firstly, Israel was all over 9/11. The neocon mafia who control Washington are all Zionist jews:
The War Party BBC Documentary
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4667039539703585825&hl=en
Secondly, if most people in the jewish community realise that Israel was involved in the 9/11 false-falg attacks, then as far as everyone in the 9/11 Truth Movement who acknowledges Israel's complicity are concerned, everyone of these jews who remain silent are guilty of complicity for remaining silent. They will be treated as part of the conspiracy. They will be tried and they will be imprisoned. Lets get something straight: On 9/11 Israel waged war on the west. Anyone remaining silent about that is an enemy combattant. You claim that most jews know Israel did 9/11 - why did they remain silent while Iraq was genocided in the name of 9/11? Why did they remain silent while Afghanistan is being ripped to shreds?
We are not going to allow the 'innocent' jews to force our nations into World War like they forced Germany into WW2.
Here I have just received a suspicious global email from the organiser of 911oz, hereward:
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Due to technical problems and copyright issues I cannot distribute 9/11 Mysteries. If you are coming to the May 11 event please bring some copies of Loose Change or Terror Storm with you.
best regards
(: hereward
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Lets just analyse this email: Because Hereward is having 'technical difficulties' with 9/11 Mysteries, and because Hereward has 'copyright issues' with 9/11 Mystereies, he wants us all NOT to bring along copies of 9/11 Mysteries but to bring along copies of Loose Change?????
What has Herewad's technical difficulties got to do with ***us*** and where is the logical connection of subsequently advising ***us*** to bring along copies of Loose Change? Loose Change is a 9/11 video which is widely promoted and debunked by the mainstream media, a video full of more logical falacies than any other 9/11 video on the internet. a video which totally ignores the evidence of israel's complicity.
Do any of you realise that the three makers of Loose Change are blatant deniers of Israeli complicity in the 9/11 attacks? They flatly reject and refuse to discuss any of the voluminous evidence of Israel's role in 9/11. Further, despite over half of the arguments in their Loose Change video being debunked over a year ago, they still make 100,000s of copies of it over America handing copies of it out. The mainstream media love to promote Loose Change as the definitive representation of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
And yet Dylan Avery writes himself at 9/11 mysteries's download site:
"Dylan Avery, Director of Loose Change: "Loose Change really is not a very fair representation of the 911 Truth Movement, I'd reccomend...911 Mysteries"
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm
Lets go have a look at the website for 9/11 Mysteries to investigate this 'copyright' issue:
911Mysteries.com is re-routed to www.911weknow.com
At his website the "Download 911 Mystereies" links routes to
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm
On that website it says:
"911 Mysteries The first 9/11 movie designed specifically for the mainstream audience, a theatrical quality movie-length DVD with a full original soundtrack that will rivet you to your seat and blast out of your home theatre system. Available for purchase in regular box DVD and discount slimpack, buy multiples to share! Feel free to burn copies and pass around, but remember that if we recoup our costs through DVD sales, we will more easily produce Part 2 and Part 3. Send your friends to this website for orders, as much as you can. Gracias, merci, thank you for watching, listening and caring."
So there you go. You have the full permission of the copyright holders to burn copies of the full DVD version.
This is Hereward a LIAR??????????????? And WHY IS HE LYING???????????
So do you all really believe Hereward's claim that there are technical difficulties with 9/11 Mysteries? There are plenty of other videos to promote in its place. Everybody Gotta Learn Sometime comes to mind.
And what has Hereward's technical difficulties with making his own copies of 9/11 Mysteries got to do with OUR copies?
And I wonder if Hereward is too. Zionist jews are infamous for infilrating thier opposition and destroying them from the inside out.
Mossad's motto is "By Way of Deception thou Shalt Do War"
I will not allow this Australian group to be infiltrated by Zionist traitors.
Terror Storm, Alex Jones, is also another Zoinist denier. He blames the conspiracy on some elusive German Death cult.
Please consider carefully
My husband was working for a major investment bank in the area at the time. Based on the comments of his colleagues who were in the area when the towers fell (my husband and his friend got the last train out of Manhattan) and reading nearly everything I can on the subject, I have no doubts that it was an inside job to some degree (bin Laden was a paid asset of the CIA in the 80s). The antisemitic theories (as in it was only a Jewish conspiracy) don't help at all because most normal people in the Jewish community realize that if there was Israeli complicity, to some extent it's because certain forces want to stir up massive antisemitism so that everyone is forced to move to Israel, whether they want to or not. It's what happened in WW2 as well, as anyone who has read or researched about the Holocaust knows only too well.
Focoism and the 9/11 Truth Movement
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Who is Eric Hufschmid?
> On Feb. 6, 2003, the Washington Post - under the headline
> "Irrefutable" - told readers in no uncertain terms:
> "After Secretary of State Colin L. Powell's presentation to the
> United Nations Security Council yesterday, it is hard to imagine how
> anyone could doubt that Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction."
> These are the same mainstream media that tell us to ignore the clear
> evidence of Israeli foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
> These are the same media run by Jewish extremists that never discuss
> the facts of Israeli terrorism against America such as in the Lavon
> Affair, or the clear evidence of Israeli infamy in the terrorist,
> surprise attack on the USS Liberty. These are the same media that
> forever tell us of the danger of Muslim extremists who have zero power
> in the American media or government, but that never discuss the danger
> of Jewish extremists who own and/or influence a predominance of
> America's media from TV to newspapers, to magazines to movies and
> that constitute the most powerful Lobby and force in American politics!
> These are the same media that forever warn of the danger of White
> racism, Black nationalism, Islamo-fascism, but that never criticize
> powerful extremist organizations such as Chabad Lubavitch, a
> Jewish-supremacist movement which professes that Gentiles are like
> animals that have only one purpose for their existence on earth: to
> serve the superior Jewish people. Chabad has confabs in the White
> House!
> If you are a new reader to davidduke.com, keep reading the articles on
> this site. Check out our links and references. Read the original Jewish
> sources for yourselves. You will find every line of what you have just
> read to be truly "irrefutable." Good luck in your search for the
> truth! - Dr. David Duke
the Zionists to hold the extreme right views in check.
If you want to know the truth about the Zionists, without any racism
then I suggest
www.iamthewitness.com
That is Daryl Bradford Smith and Eric Hufschmid's website.
Remember that it was Eric Hufschmid's book that Jimmy Walter spent 2
million dollars promoting for free in New York. Eric's book Painful
Questions on the 9/11 anomalies is the first famous book out there. He
also has a documentary called Painful Deceptions. It doesn't cover the
Zionist involvment at that stage because there were so many questions
to broach just about the actual physical events themselves. Later Eric
started to realise that Israel was majorly involved. See the process:
First you realise that the official story is a lie. Second and most
labouriously you investigate WHO was thus behind it. When Eric found
out that the Zionists were involved (they had to be because of the way
their media were covering up the painful questions) he was getting no
traction. He would write to journalists all over the country and they
would ignore him, or he would organise an interview with them and
they'd cancel at last minute. Finally he realised that these White
Supremicists would surely love to have evidence that the 'jews' were
behind in the 9/11 attacks but when he tried to contact them and show
them the evidence they too, like the media, ignored him. This is when
the ball dropped and he hypothesised that maybe the White Supremicist
groups were actually agents of the Zionists and when he looked further
into that idea the pieces fell together.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Ashkenazi-Nazis.html
Here they expose David Duke for the racist KKK type he is. There are
strong indications that he is a Zionist hoodwinker which you will
examine for youself at that link on the Ashkenazi Nazis.
Just because David Duke tells you alot of truths about the Zionist
Mafia and their control of US foreign policy and media doesn't mean
that he's not working for the Zionists.
Imagine that people in this newsgroup were conspiring to have my
accounts canceled etc.
If I wanted to be able to second guess their moves I would set up a
fake enemy of Jake and go to the meetings wouldn't it? Then I would
know what their moves are and I could sabotage their organised efforts.
Its pretty simple school yard tactics. Humans don't live very long.
Their tricks are not always that clever, especially once you realise
which ones they are using.
Letters between Terrorists
Beware the slander of Hufschmid and Bollyn - www.iamthewitness.com
On 2/3/07, PainfulQuesti...@aol.com <PainfulQuesti...@aol.com> wrote:
> I grew up in America, so I am already very familiar with how amazingly
> stupid and mentally ill the American people are. I noticed it as a teenager,
> but I thought this mental illness was typical in the world. I didn't realize
> that America, Australia, and Canada were different from Europe.
> Americans boast about landing on the moon, but in reality most of them are
> so stupid that they can't even figure out that they never went to the moon.
> Have you seen this? There are college students and engineers they cannot
> figure this out:
studied BSc and Engineering (Chemicals). During lectures they'd read
our tabloid The Herald Sun (you would have heard of it because it was
the only other paper along with The Daily Mail who ran the Irgun
terrorist history story (during heat of the lebanon crisis) from that
Cambridge Fellow which was axed two days later) - I think they ran it
in the Sun AFTERWARDS to 'tabloid' effect it. But it only appeared in
the Herald Sun and its original the Daily Mail and then the opnly
place you could find it was Nexus PLexus and the likes.
They read the Herald Sun during lectures and I mean the sports page.
And between lectures they wanted to talk about the sports page.
Someone wonp and someone lost - this is all I remember from out
converations. To say that I was dissapointed is fair I guess. There
were a few autisitcs in our year who were truly brilliant but they
masturbated in public and needed minders. It was Melbourne University.
The only thing my collegues cared about was their GRADE - no matter
how! - and the jobs and networks they were making to get them.
I never had that foresight and loved to ponder autistically but never
masturbated in public.
I need an RSS feed to tell me when something has changed on your
websites. can I do that? It will save me time.
I could probably admit that I am a product of your imaginations, a
student; totally naive in designer apathy/bewilderment/kitch-rebellion
until I saw for the first time the collapse of WTC7 in Jan 2006 when
Channel ten ran 911 In Plane Site. I came across Daryl in the torrents
and then on..
I think I've seen most of your material. Especially everything in
video or mp3 format.
Yes I am 95% sure man never went to the moon. That is a conditional
probability based on the fact that I am 100% sure 9/11 was a
false-flag operation. I even suspect the cold war was a dual-monarch
conspiracy to keep the masses of Russia and America productive.
Yes TISM once beg in their song "Australia Dont Become America". It
was a cool song and people tapped their foots to it - and noting else
possibly. Although I'm sure many brilliant minds and opinions on this
await a critical mass, where its safe to leave their children playing
in thepark unattended from threats of blackmail murder. Or to have
your kids coming home with black eyes to report the news you hadn't
caught up with yet.
Bollyn said in his CNNmp3 interview,. (when being cornered into
unreasonable patterns of argument), that he doesn't like to speculate
on 9/11, that he just knows that the official story isn't sticking:
I think that we can settle for "9/11 was a false-flag operation". When
pressed "who did it then" - you disclaim that we have no access to the
operations of CIA and other secretive societies who seem to operate
under the guise of protecting out freedoms - We have suspacts (and
when pressed on suspects you deny saying "I don't think this is the
appropriate forum to name names - thats what the webs for! - this
hopefully sends 1million more people to switch of the television - if
the stupid morons who run these gigs don't spot it! - and probably now
they might given this emailo of intel that they can add to the 100
million Americans who know 9/11 Officiale is bullshite) he can then
fall into the pressured response that he gave anyway. But the concept
of "false-flag" is foreign to many. I notice that Hollywood, in all
their missions impossible rarely to none mention Mossad.
And then you go on to cite those leaders who invoked this concept of
caution, about those who would feign our freedoms' security as right
to withhold everything or anything or whatever it is being withheld
that none of us know, not even you Mrs Fox Parrot Slut with Short Life
wagering your own social climax against the future of democracy have
heard these speeches. I know JFK was a 'traitor' of soughts from some
post of Daryls I didn't venture deep because I loved this speech so
much.. But his speech that may have killed him which I wrote to you
about 6 months ago, this speech sits nicely beside Benjamin freedman.
Couple a pop-hero with an unknown and you double the heroism.
What do you think of this speech that killed JFK?
The link is sure: I just checked it: I know the guy loves himself by
posting his image against his theory but none the less I still recall
the JFK SPEECH that he airs after his 1 minute introduction:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8789700203199905805&%20amp;q=JFK
Sorry, I'm a bit tired and drunk.
I felt Bollyn's anxiety being up against what could be the best
zionist witch bitch FOX has ever recruited. And I recognised the
difference between his fluency of thought in the company of
unjudgemental friends like Daryl and you. He was possibly for all he
knew in the valley of darkness, the words he uttered may or may not
have signed some death warrant - we know they assassinate the popular
dissidents.
Their most favourite piss ritual is to make the martyd a martyr of
their own cause, to rewrite the history of the one they murdered and
use him as a pop cultural icon, such as Che Guaevara.
I never understood and always asked "Why is it that everybody
(including here in Brazil) loves Che Guavara but hates Fidel castro?
The guys were Hollywood style BEST MATES.
Anyway man.
You know man I'll tell you soemthing before I forget the bottom quote
that inspires me at present. I wrote death threats and the like to
politicians and media for six months when I was in Australia and NEVER
did I get a knock on my door from the FEDS until one day I forgot to
include "9/11 was an inside job" and rather tried for an "Alahu
Akbar". then ASIS (Australian Secret Intelligence Service)_
The guy who had been forced to come down and give me some threats KNEW
9'/11 was an inside job and blushed in front of the two uniforms that
come with him.
HE made a threat about next time they'll stick me all over the
tabloids and shit.;
I laid low for a few months and then fled Australia to Brazil who
refuse political expedition and resumed my info-terrorism and mockery
that includes outrageous deaththreats.
Its neither of any of your three styles. Your task is to report with
solid journalism the best you can digup.
My job as a front line activist with his only sword the pen, to follow
my gut, to feel the pace and react to it; to claim that I have
gathered tonnes of fertiliser but to remain so militantly inactive as
to never recognise a bag of it dropped on my doorstep.
Even Noam Chomsky admits the impact of his writings is immeasurable.
I like to think that my pen is something I can stab people in the face
with, take out an eye, puncture an ear-drum.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor
moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling
through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not traitor; he speaks in the accent that is
familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments,
and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all
men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in
the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body
politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be
feared." (Cicero)
They are censoring YouTube now Eric. I have sensed it in a way that I
should TiVo its existence so that we may record and witness its
beginning. Some kind fuckign neural network algorithm that rejects
deadly kew words to deadly topics but acts blatantly in the face of
the DO KNOW IS PERSPICACIOUS because its working on the %factor.
When the algorithm decides you are not going to post that gem against
that demon it confirms "Post successful" but then never posts it. This
means that all those DO KNOWS who stumble across a DONT KNOW but they
are the type of DO KNOW who doesn't check back to make sure it stuck
yellow; well the message never gets through. - Like I said I need
TiVo-style net surf mode and I would need a few pages to otherwise
detail it. THEY ARE DOING IT AND IT IS VERY POWERFUL DISINFO IN THE
MOST PROMOTED WEB SERVICE OF THE WORLD!
- Show quoted text -
> I put this document together a coulple years later to help the stupid
> Americans:
> http://www.EricHufschmid.net/MoreInfoForScienceChallenge.html
> It was w
The 911 Truth Movement must come to grips with three core realities if it is to overcome the Zionist roadblocks that obstruct its road to effectiveness:
The first is the reality that the official 911 myth is a blood libel perpetuated against Semite Arabs by Semite Jews, which has turned Christian Americans into killers of Israel's Muslim enemies. The second is that labeling your enemies "antisemitic" is the last refuge of scoundrels. "Antisemites" are said to be people who don't like Jews, but more often they are people whom the Jews don't like, especially when they point out that 911 makes Christians kill Muslims for Jews.
Epilogue on our Enemies
A wide array of treasonous forces, comprised of Globalists and Zionists, set up and covered up the 911 attack, and have since conspired to set up the 911-2B attack, which they aim to cover up as well. Mainstream media collaborators have sought to convince us that Arabs and Muslims were -- and will be -- behind it all. The rest of the world notes that it's Jews and Christians who have been committing war crimes and reaping profits from post-911 anti-Muslim conflicts in Afghanistan,
The cozy notion of a 911 Truth Movement that includes all points of view and rejects no point of view is quite pointless. The Ghost Troop model of committed radicals leading the way, reinforced by 911 truth allies, has shown that a small number of infowarriors can achieve decisive results while cowards bury their heads in the sand -- or up King George's bottom. Only by setting up the Four Pillars of Wisdom can we right the crooked parts of our movement, and set ourselves squarely in the pursuit of victory.
# # #
About the writer: Captain May, a former Army intelligence and public affairs officer, announced a mission of conscience and founded Ghost Troop in 2003, after a career in which he had worked as an NBC editorial writer, Wall Street Journal essayist and Houston Chronicle military analyst. For more on Ghost Troop's role in the 911 Truth Movement, listen to his August 24 interview with 911 Visibility broadcaster Michael Wolsey: http://visibility911.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=123423
www.ghosttroop.net
Your Sydney Town Hall vigil on 11th of each month might do more damage than good to our movement.
If you turn up at Sydney Town Hall with only a handful of people like last time then you're making it look like Australians don't believe 9/11 Truth and support the Osama rubbish.
And its simply not true. I'm suprised how many Australians DO know now that 9/11 Officiale is a cover up and a lie.
You have to get 200+ at the vigil every month. There is no time to mess around. You've taken on this job and you better bloody do it properly. You should be out every day pamphleting University students with fliers and demanding they make a showing at the Town Hall on the 11th.
We do not have years. We do not have months. This is a declaration of WAR and it must be fought God speed.
If you want peaceful end to this then don't waste the time we have to act freely without censorship. Once the censorship starts the 9/11 Truth movement will move into a focoist revolution stage and go underground.
I'm in Brazil. I can't help you from here and I don't trust you yet to offer funding.
Turning up with 4 people is a fucking joke.
John Gibson flaming Rosie O'Donnell 04-03-07 - Classic example of how the mainstream media lynch mob lies to assassinate anyone who speaks out in public about 9/11 Truth issues
The Big Outrage - FOX
Host: John Gibson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEnYL3uGZuQ
First Guest: Ethan Czahor - Ethan is introduced by John Gibson as "Founder of StopRosie.com" but we find out (perhaps because Ethan slips) that Ethan only started the website that morning (so literally just hours before going on The Big Outrage). We are not told anything more about who Ethan Czahor is and why FOX have brought him on other than that he is the founder of StopRosie of literally hours ago. Ethan claims he doesn't know how FOX found out about his website so quckly. John Gibson doesn't seem to realise that the website was inagurated just hours before or he tries to lead Ethan into insinuating that just the Rosie poll was opened this morning so that the viewer will assume the website has been up for a while longer. Ethan doesn't recognise the lead and affirms that he only conceived the website on Friday and drew up the plans for its data set over the weekend. Go have a look at the website and note that there is no place for opposing views. You either dign the petition agreeing with everything or you do nothing. How can a one-sided poll reveal anything about the views of Americans on Rosie's comments about WTC7? Since when is FOX endorsing a non-scientifically designed poll? This reminds me of how often at girls schools some bitch will go around and get all her friends to sign a petition stating that another girl is ugly and nobody likes her!
Ethan Czahor also appears on FOX and Friends -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RWgRfSnwh0&
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I'm not even going to bother critiqing it.
Can I point out that there is nothing else to be found about this mysterious overnight celebrity television guest who has a surname Czahor which is an area in Bukowina , Romania, known for a history of jewish farmers and the pogroms. Many jews who fled the pogroms changed their names. It wouldn't suprise me if Spuruiell below is also a jew. You have to face the FACTS. 9/11 was indeed a Zionist job. This is the FACTS. It is not our fault that the Zionists are conspiring to take over the world. It is not anti-semitic to identify criminal conspiracy. It is your duty to defend you children and family.
Zcahor tells blatant lies about 9/11 issues in this hit piece. Why is he lying? Do you honestly expect me to beleive that he is ignorant? Someone who has the audacity to go on national television to state his views doesn't have a clue what he's talking about regarding 9/11?
Is that the standard of journalism that FOX insists we tolerate? Indeed why do we tolerate it?
Stephen Spruiell - Introduced as "National Review online columnist".
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This is one of the best examples I've seen. The mainstream media cabal are so desperate to shut down 9/11 Truth this year that their guns and lies and strawman attacks are blazing in broad daylight.
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POINTS OF NOTICE:
"For the record fire does melt steel" - John Gibson reminds his audience that fire CAN melt steel thus claiming that he need not discuss further any of Rosie's comments on WTC7. However Rosie clarifies clearly that she is talking about Office fires such as those in WTC7. Indeed office fires have never melted steel nor caused steel framed buildings to completely collapse and yet on 9/11 we saw three steel buildings completely collapse. Jet fuel in open combustion cannot melt steel. No official reports claimed that the fires melted steel. This was and always has been the mythical explanation promoted by the mainstream press - its a lie. No scientist has claimed that fires melted the steel except for one scientist immediately after 9/11 and he was shot down by every other scientist in the world.
FOX's shameless lies and propaganda. 1) No office fire has ever melted steel. Even the official reports admit that the fires couldn't melt steel and didn't melt steel.
Here you have seen FOX promoting the myth about how the buildings collapsed, allowing their viewers to continue believing that fire melted steel on 9/11. Even the official reports deny that this happened.
Further FOX is promoting the myth that there is an official explanation for WTC7 collapse. In fact NIST is still investigating and we await their report still five years later. So now you have seen the LIES. Stop watching FOX!!
Stephen Spruiell falsely states that Rosie is pretending that the jury is still out on 9/11. No, the jury is still out on WTC7 which is what Rosie was talking about. They wouldn't want their audience to know that in December 2006 NIST reported that they had decided to investigate whether explosives and thermite could explain how WTC7 collapsed - we are still waiting for their conclusions. Steven thinks that "Somebody at ABC has a clearly very sick sense of humour to letting this clearly unwell person go on TV and continue to say these things which are clearly doing incredible damage to her reputation". How kind of Stephen to care about Rosie's reputation and claiming that Rosie is "clearly unwell". Does Stephen agree that Men in White should be called and incacerate poor sick Rosie? That would be the responsible thing to do wouldn't it Stephen? Americans can't make up their own minds because they too are all sick like Rosie and need FOX to tell us so?
Note something very revealing about Czahor's statements on his website about Free Speech - Our first ammendment is being attacked everyone:
"Rosie has the right of free speech."
Yes, unfortunately she does. That is why I have retracted from my original position of calling for her replacement to simply calling for Disney-ABC to address the problem and find some way to fix it. Let me repeat - I am not calling exclusively for her departure; I believe that other solutions exist and I believe that the good people of America will accept a sincere apology.
But non-action is unacceptable. Something needs to be done, and here's why - 'free speech' is not an unlimited right. The first amendment makes no claim that Americans can say anything they please without fear of consequence from an entity such as an employer, a constituency, or a fan-base. So here you see why the right to free speech is being threatened by Globalisation. When the greatest influence in your life and liberties is coroprations, then the Governmnent that those corporations protect and propaganda for doesn't have to do anything to shut your voice down does it? The Corporations have become the government's attack dogs.
I have also heard FOX talking-heads and guests calling for "Anyone with a rope long enough to hang her (Rosie)", that "she is guilty of treason" and that she is an "enemy of the United States" and that she "siding with Iran".
There are many pyschotic people in the US. How irresponsible is it for the fascist media to incite the murder of Rosie O'Donnell?
These attacks on 9/11 Truth spokes people is not new. Last year Bill O'Reilly said that if he was the Provost of Kevin Barrett's University that Kevin would be floating upside down in the local river.
Notice by searhing for Rosie O'Donnell on YouTube or elsewhere that all of the mainstream media presentation of these comments of Rosie regarding 9/11 have these common format -
1) Nobody has been brought on to defend Rosie. The views are all attacking her.
2) They avoid talking about WTC7 entirely, except stating that Rosie's comments are clearly mentally ill.
3) They don't take the opportunity to show the audience the footage of WTC7 so that the audience knows what Rosie is talking about
4) They demand that ABC sack Rosie
5) They state explicity or imply that Rosie is unAmerican
6) They incite explicity or imply that Rosie should be murdered
7) They refer to explicity or by way of selective footage that Rosie is obese - not very wise considering how many fat Americans there are (But I'm not going to advise these moronic psychopaths how to manipulate their audience)
You really must go and look up how the media attacks 9/11 Truth spokespersons. This initself should tell you that there is a missive organised cover-up of 9/11 Truth issues. The next question follows logically: What are they trying to hide?
I must remind everyone: Now is a time we can take up pens to defeat this tyranny. All of your friends who stand around doing nothing, are like soldiers who stand around and watch their compatriots be killed by the enemy. The day will come if we don't raise out pens, that we must raise arms. And that will be a messy and miserable outcome for humanity.
The Zionists will not win. They are fools to think they can take over the world. But the more power you let them seize, the more blood it will cost humanity to finally stop them.
Now read this this forum about Steven Jones to see that once you have helped Zionists destroy Bollyn they are coming for Jones
They are already attacking and smearing Jones with their anti-semite wild-card. Pretty powerful card that one - its been used for over 50 years now since WW2 to destroy anyone who threatens directly or indirectly to expose Israeli war crimes and deception.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=79316
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I posted a series of questions regarding his appearant poor choice of friends to Steven Jones over at Screw Loose Change and JamesB was actually able to get the good professor to take a look at them.
This is the first time that I am aware of that Jones has directly addressed the issue of Holocaust denial and 9-11 twoof.
He seems eager for a response from me, wich I have not done yet, but I am presenting what we have so far.[...]
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Go read it!!!!
Thats what you're helping to line up Hereward. You realise what you're doing?
Bollyn is not what you say he is and this is a well known smear campaign to everyone who has been paying attention to Bollyn's case.
The ADL defamation of Christopher Bollyn
This is an example of the kinds of vacuous attacks on Bollyn as being an ánti-semite with neo-nazi affiliations:
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From: http://911review.com/denial/holocaust.html
The American Free Press
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Christopher Bollyn was simply a journalist for American Free Press because for a while they agreed to publish his articles. When he started investigating Israel and 9/11 and wanting to publish his research on it, American Free Press fired him:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-fired-from-AFP.html
from American Free Press
By Christopher Bollyn
Monday, 9 October 2006
Christopher Bollyn of American Free Press was fired by the managing editor Chris Petherick on Saturday morning, October 7, 2006.

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If you want to here Bollyn's right of reply regarding this go seek his interviews at www.iamthewitness.com
In this one he addressed AFP firing him:
Wednesday, October 11
Hufschmid and Bollyn, audio interview, about the suspicious reasons Bollyn was fired.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Hufschmid_Bollyn_AFP_11Oct2006.html
Regarding David Duke and Bollyn's said appearance as a GUEST on his show: Did you know for the last year while Bollyn has been appearing as a regular guest on the French Connection (www.iamthewitness.com) they have been exposing David Duke and all those white supremicist groups as likely Zionist funded propaganda? They have discredited and denounced David Duke for over a year.
Here, have a look at how the French Connection (Daryl Bradford Smith., Eric Hufschmid, and Christopher Bollyn) endlessly trash and denounce David Duke:
http://www.google.com/custom?q=David+Duke&sa=Search&cof=S%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.iamthewitness.com%3BGL%3A0%3BAH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3Ad868793abbf8d1ed%3B&domains=www.iamthewitness.com%3Bwww.erichufschmid.net&sitesearch=www.iamthewitness.com
Here is Bollyn with Professor Steven Jones:


Does this mean that Prof Steven Jones has neo-nazi associations Hereward? Are you going to allow these dirty little Zionist tricks fool you as well?
When they come for Steven Jones are you going to denounce him as a neo-nazi?
David Duke appeared as a Guest with Wolf Blitzer on CNN. Wolf Blizter is a well known Zionist propagandist. Are you saying that Blitzer therefore has neo-nazi associations Hereward?
Eric Hufschmid knew nothing about Zionism when he first started investigating 9/11 to publish his first book (which doesnt mention anything about Israeli complicity and Zionism). Eric noticed after a while that whenever he tried to broach the evidence he was finding of Israel's involvment in 9/11with the websites that were claiming that "9/11 was a jew job" that none of these websites wanted to discuss the evidence. Basically Eric worked out that these websites, which were mostly white-supremecist websites, were actually disinformation sites run by Zionist funding. The objective of these sites was to bury the real evidence of Israel complicity in an ocean of false evidence and rumours.
What you're doing is assisting the disinformation attack on Bollyn. Christopher Bollyn is one of the greatest journalists who has exposed Israel's role in 9/11. You must read his articles and listen to his interviews:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn.html
You must denounce the slander campiagn on Christopher Bollyn. Right now Bollyn goes into jury trial to defend false charges on April 23rd.
You must read about his case and help us protect him:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn_Malice-Exposed.html




