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All those who passionately believe that "contrails dissipate quickly" whereas "chemtrails linger" and are deeply offended by the sceptical position that TNRA takes in regard to these claims, are free to "unlike" Truth News.

If, on the other hand, you would like to engage in rational debate, you're most welcome to do so.

However, please be advised that the information I have to impart may be shocking and difficult to grasp if you have been a "chemtrail alarmist" for a long time.

The often cited claim that "normal contrails dissipate quickly" is total bunkum.

There is not a shred of science to backup that claim.  Nothing, nada, zippo!

Those who promote this idea are simply repeating something they read on a web page without checking sources.


 

CONTRAIL SCIENCE


For a contrail to form, suitable conditions must occur immediately behind a jet engine in the expanding engine exhaust plume. A contrail will form if, as the exhaust gases cool and mix with surrounding air, the humidity becomes high enough (or, equivalently, the air temperature becomes low enough) for liquid water to condense on particles and form liquid droplets. If the local air is cold enough, these newly formed droplets then freeze and form ice particles that make up a contrail.

Because the basic processes are very well understood, contrail formation for a given aircraft flight can be accurately predicted if atmospheric temperature and humidity conditions are known.

After the initial formation of ice, a contrail evolves in one of two ways. If the humidity is low, the contrail will be short-lived. Newly formed ice particles will quickly evaporate. The resulting contrail will extend only a short distance behind the aircraft. If the humidity is high, the contrail will be persistent. Newly formed ice particles will continue to grow in size by taking water from the surrounding atmosphere. The resulting line-shaped contrail extends for large distances behind an aircraft. Persistent contrails can last for hours while growing to several kilometers in width and 200 to 400 meters in height. Contrails spread because of air turbulence created by the passage of aircraft, differences in wind speed along the flight track, and possibly through effects of solar heating.

Thus, the surrounding atmosphere’s conditions determine to a large extent whether or not a contrail will form after an aircraft’s passage, and how it evolves. Other factors that influence contrail formation include engine fuel efficiency, which affects the amount of heat and water emitted in the exhaust plume.
- source


TNRA is informed by science and is not interested in propping up anyone's belief systems, and we don't apologise for that.

But, please, don't take it from me, speak to any meteorologist or any pilot and they'll tell you straight, that there is HUGE variation in the length and persistence of contrails. Sometimes they don't form at all, other times they form, but disspate quickly, other times they persist and spread out.

That's the facts folks, and it's been that way since planes first went up in the sky.

If you believe otherwise, I'm afraid you've been conned.

Forgive me if I seem rude or impatient on this topic, but every few months I come across a new wave of people who have been subjected to the same false propaganda about chemtrails, and I have to run the same arguments and cite the same articles over and over again. It does wear one's patience down.

Before making some kind of angry reply, I urge you to read this article and associated links. It's fairly detailed, and deals with most of the usual claims made by chemtrail alarmists.

Finally, let me qualify all this by saying that I do not doubt that geo-engineering programs exist, and that, indeed, some of the patented techniques discussed at international forums  include the creation of artificial cirrus cloud. Does this, however, entitle you to conclude that every spreading contrail you see is an example of such geo-engineering?

Think about it.

Related Links


Contrail Facts

Pre WWII Contrails

WWII Contrails

New Mexicans for Science and Reason


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They are putting out the meme that there are "allegations" against Thomson, whereas in fact, Fair Work Australia, "the national workplace relations tribunal" delivered their findings after a 3 year investigation. Fair Work Australia handed it's findings to the DPP on 3 April 2012 and the entire report was tabled in parliament last week.

Back in early April, the public was informed that the DPP was "pondering" criminal charges against him. At of the date of writing no criminal charges have been laid. It now appears that the Victorian and NSW police are pondering charges as well, but just can't make up their minds whether a crime has been committed. This state of affairs is, as David Penberthy put it, "farcical".

In the meantime Thomson is "tried by media". His protestations of innocence on the Today Show with Laurie Oaks are worth watching for their sheer farcical chutzpah.


Craig Thomson Interview Part 1

Craig Thomson Interview Part 2

Craig Thomson Interview Part 3


It would be fair to characterise Thomson's statements about being setup by former colleagues as "wild allegations", in contrast to the evidence tabled against him, which consists of phone records and credit card receipts. Despite this, the government and its cronies like Tony Windsor continue to give Thomson the benefit of the doubt.

So what is really going on? My take is that the Gillard government is simply extracting the most value they can from Thomson as a depreciating asset, but until he is forced to vacate his seat, they know they can rely on his vote to keep the government afloat. Thomson too knows that, as long as he votes with the government, he is safe from that quarter, but in order to keep his parliamentary seat he is forced to invent a pathetic cover story about being framed by his enemies.

Perhaps in the hands of Shakespeare this story could be made into a comedy. As it stands, it's just a farce.

 

 


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All those who passionately believe that "contrails dissipate quickly" whereas "chemtrails linger" and are deeply offended by the sceptical position that TNRA takes in regard to these claims, are free to "unlike" Truth News.

If, on the other hand, you would like to engage in rational debate, you're most welcome to do so.

However, please be advised that the information I have to impart may be shocking and difficult to grasp if you have been a "chemtrail alarmist" for a long time.

The often cited claim that "normal contrails dissipate quickly" is total bunkum.

There is not a shred of science to backup that claim.  Nothing, nada, zippo!

Those who promote this idea are simply repeating something they read on a web page without checking sources.


 

CONTRAIL SCIENCE


For a contrail to form, suitable conditions must occur immediately behind a jet engine in the expanding engine exhaust plume. A contrail will form if, as the exhaust gases cool and mix with surrounding air, the humidity becomes high enough (or, equivalently, the air temperature becomes low enough) for liquid water to condense on particles and form liquid droplets. If the local air is cold enough, these newly formed droplets then freeze and form ice particles that make up a contrail.

Because the basic processes are very well understood, contrail formation for a given aircraft flight can be accurately predicted if atmospheric temperature and humidity conditions are known.

After the initial formation of ice, a contrail evolves in one of two ways. If the humidity is low, the contrail will be short-lived. Newly formed ice particles will quickly evaporate. The resulting contrail will extend only a short distance behind the aircraft. If the humidity is high, the contrail will be persistent. Newly formed ice particles will continue to grow in size by taking water from the surrounding atmosphere. The resulting line-shaped contrail extends for large distances behind an aircraft. Persistent contrails can last for hours while growing to several kilometers in width and 200 to 400 meters in height. Contrails spread because of air turbulence created by the passage of aircraft, differences in wind speed along the flight track, and possibly through effects of solar heating.

Thus, the surrounding atmosphere’s conditions determine to a large extent whether or not a contrail will form after an aircraft’s passage, and how it evolves. Other factors that influence contrail formation include engine fuel efficiency, which affects the amount of heat and water emitted in the exhaust plume.
- source


TNRA is informed by science and is not interested in propping up anyone's belief systems, and we don't apologise for that.

But, please, don't take it from me, speak to any meteorologist or any pilot and they'll tell you straight, that there is HUGE variation in the length and persistence of contrails. Sometimes they don't form at all, other times they form, but disspate quickly, other times they persist and spread out.

That's the facts folks, and it's been that way since plains first went up in the sky.

If you believe otherwise, I'm afraid you've been conned.

Forgive me if I seem rude or impatient on this topic, but every few months I come across a new wave of people who have been subjected to the same false propaganda about chemtrails, and I have to run the same arguments and cite the same articles over and over again. It does wear one's patience down.

Before making some kind of angry reply, I urge you to read this article and associated links. It's fairly detailed, and deals with most of the usual claims made by chemtrail alarmists.

Finally, let me qualify all this by saying that I do not doubt that geo-engineering programs exist, and that, indeed, some of the patented techniques discussed at international forums  include the creation of artificial cirrus cloud. Does this, however, entitle you to conclude that every spreading contrail you see is an example of such geo-engineering?

Think about it.

Related Links


Contrail Facts

Pre WWII Contrails

WWII Contrails

New Mexicans for Science and Reason


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They are putting out the meme that there are "allegations" against Thomson, whereas in fact, Fair Work Australia, "the national workplace relations tribunal" delivered their findings after a 3 year investigation. Fair Work Australia handed it's findings to the DPP on 3 April 2012 and the entire report was tabled in parliament last week.

Back in early April, the public was informed that the DPP was "pondering" criminal charges against him. At of the date of writing no criminal charges have been laid. It now appears that the Victorian and NSW police are pondering charges as well, but just can't make up their minds whether a crime has been committed. This state of affairs is, as David Penberthy put it "farcical".

In the meantime Thomson is "tried by media". His protestations of innocence on the Today Show with Laurie Oaks are worth watching for their sheer farcical chutzpah.


Craig Thomson Interview Part 1

Craig Thomson Interview Part 2

Craig Thomson Interview Part 3


It would be fair to characterise Thomson's statements about being setup by former colleagues as "wild allegations", in contrast to the evidence tabled against him, which consists of phone records and credit card receipts. Despite this, the government and its cronies like Tony Windsor continue to give Thomson the benefit of the doubt.

So what is really going on? My take is that the Gillard government is simply extracting the most value they can from Thomson as a depreciating asset, but until he is forced to vacate his seat, they know they can rely on his vote to keep the government afloat. Thomson too knows that, as long as he votes with the government, he is safe from that quarter, but in order to keep his parliamentary seat he is forced to invent a pathetic cover story about being framed by his enemies.

Perhaps in the hands of Shakespeare this story could be made into a comedy. As it stands, it's just a farce.

 

 


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More... ]]> Truth News Australia on Twitter 911oz http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12153 http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12152&goto=newpost Sat, 12 May 2012 12:35:57 GMT WARNING: The following video graphically depicts psychopathic torture and murder which makes the crimes of infamous serial killers pale into... WARNING: The following video graphically depicts psychopathic torture and murder which makes the crimes of infamous serial killers pale into insignificance by comparison. This atrocity was perpetrated by agents of a modern democratic state, with full authority and backup support.

It all happened right out in the open near a bus terminal with lots of people watching.

The only reason this event even came to light was the unlucky fact (for Officer Manual Ramos) that Kelly Thomas's dad was a retired police officer. Otherwise, Kelly Thomas was a perfect victim - a homeless man with a mental illness. People like him are normally not missed - thus the police were free to act out their darkest impulses.

We have been taught, through endless pulp "true crime" books, TV series and Hollywood productions, to fear the aberrant individual, the lone nut, the Ted Bundy or the Ivan Milat - but the wickedness of these individuals cannot light a candle to the pure barbarity and satanic cruelty of the State through it's empowered minions who seem to provide a channel for an almost supernatural bloodlust.

The video begins with the ominous scene of Kelly Thomas being questioned by Ramos, who is constantly twirling his baton. At a certain point Ramos dons latex gloves and says "I'm gonna f-- you up".

Nobody came to rescue Kelly as he was beaten, tasered and suffocated by the cops, while he begged for his life and called out for his dad to save him.

When paramedics finally arrived on the scene, they were directed, not to help the dying man in the gutter, but to attend to a few band-aid scratches sustained by the police.

This is the complete and unedited surveillance footage with audio added from a secondary source - watch at your own risk. I myself have not had the stomach to watch it right through.



Related Links


Judge Orders Trial for Police Officers in Kelly Thomas Death

Video of Thomas Beating Shown at Preliminary Hearing

Police Torture Man To Death For Fun!


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