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Old 30 Aug 2008, 03:13 PM
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Default Video fakery exposed!

I have checked out a bunch of fakery videos. Some are just plain silly.

But a few seem to prove fakery.

However, watch the flight of the plane across the skyline in the following videos. Same shot, posted by the same person. One is almost 50% slower. The one used in the comparison video link is 7 seconds from the plane appearing from behind the buildings... and just 5 seconds on the original of that video posted by the same person. (which appears to be the original)

The speeds have been altered by the video maker to make it seem like there was video fakery. The angles all make sense if played in realtime.

There is video fakery all right! However, all I have ever been able to find is fakery done by the video fakery advocates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k70Jr...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTg9g21zJs



If there is real government fakery, and not manufactured fakery, let's see it.

Most fakery I see is just digital imaging problems. The rest is misinterpreted angles, and misread video events.

Would an airplane traveling at the tremendous speeds displayed in all the available pictures and videos, or at some of the distances involved be captured on any of digital mediums 'perfectly'? This is DIGITAL video we are dealing with here. 30 sampled frames a second.

Wouldn't it be prone to video artifacts, digital drop-outs, anomalies, blurs?

If the 'ones and zeros' aren't translated exactly, you get some form of digital image problem. Just because certain features 'ghost-out' on certain shots of high speed or distant objects in 911, that doesn't mean the feature was not there in reality and the shot was faked.

Conversely, fuzzy resolution with shade and light plays tricks too, and certain features do not register the same way from one video to the next sometimes. Especially when perspective, distance, resolution, focus and camera type are factored in.

Of video, we already know that an object traveling at high speed or at distance does not translate exactly as we might expect from traditional film. Or from what our eyes might experience, for that matter. Our brains are analog. Our world is analog, Digital exists only inside of artificial constructs; digital binary is the language of machines. That is how 911 was recorded. In binary, with ones and zeros, on machines.

My analogy is from music, which I know. Unlike magnetic tape, where extremely soft, (or I suspect in optics - faint, far, faster) are captured in degraded fashion, IF there isn't enough information for the digital media to translate into ones and zeros, the information simply is not recorded.

Anyway, to expect all the various reproductions of fast moving or distant objects to match perfectly on 911 with 'digital' technology of all of the various digital devices used that day is extremely unrealistic IMO.

Now every little variation, drop-out, smudge, steak, line, dot or dust on the lens is fakery.

Again, let me see something that CAN'T be explained.

Please.


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Old 30 Aug 2008, 03:56 PM
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"There is video fakery all right! However, all I have ever been able to find is fakery done by the video fakery advocates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k70Jr...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTg9g21zJs



If there is real government fakery, and not manufactured fakery, let's see it."

So what your saying is that the faked videos, have been faked by the faked video advocates.
All you have proved is how easily available the technology is, to fake videos.

If you want government (military) fakery just look at the live shot of UA 175 hitting the tower.
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Old 30 Aug 2008, 04:11 PM
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"There is video fakery all right! However, all I have ever been able to find is fakery done by the video fakery advocates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k70Jr...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTg9g21zJs



If there is real government fakery, and not manufactured fakery, let's see it."

So what your saying is that the faked videos, have been faked by the faked video advocates.
All you have proved is how easily available the technology is, to fake videos.

If you want government (military) fakery just look at the live shot of UA 175 hitting the tower.
Tsk, tsk....

You have to do better than that. I contend it is not faked, and you have nothing but wild speculation to say it is.

Did you watch those videos? Did you see how the tape speed was manipulated? This tape has certainly been faked by a fakery advocate.

Get me something that has been really been faked. Anything.
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Old 30 Aug 2008, 06:22 PM
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The Hezakhani video is an out & out fake.
Research Hezakhani and your see he's more that a tourist with A camcorder, who happens to be walking around Battery park before 9 in the morning. On 9/11.
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Old 30 Aug 2008, 06:31 PM
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The Brasscheck video I posted showed, how a live video with no plane, become's a video with a plane.
The video has a CGI plane inserted into it, the video is played at twice the speed to give the fireball a point of difference.
Same video different speeds.
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Old 30 Aug 2008, 06:37 PM
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The Hezakhani video is an out & out fake.
Research Hezakhani and your see he's more that a tourist with A camcorder, who happens to be walking around Battery park before 9 in the morning. On 9/11.
Why is this a fake?

I am not saying that the perps didn't have any cameras trained on the event. The 5 dancing Israelis were caught at it, that's for sure.

What makes this guys nefarious?
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Old 31 Aug 2008, 12:17 AM
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http://killtown.blogspot.com/2008/08...ezrapound.html


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But a few seem to prove fakery.

However, watch the flight of the plane across the skyline in the following videos. Same shot, posted by the same person. One is almost 50% slower. The one used in the comparison video link is 7 seconds from the plane appearing from behind the buildings... and just 5 seconds on the original of that video posted by the same person. (which appears to be the original)

The speeds have been altered by the video maker to make it seem like there was video fakery. The angles all make sense if played in realtime.

There is video fakery all right! However, all I have ever been able to find is fakery done by the video fakery advocates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k70Jr...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTg9g21zJs
The video shows the trajectory of the plane in those 3 videos are different. How does playing the videos in realtime change that? If the trajectories are different, changing the speed of the videos won't change that.
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Old 31 Aug 2008, 05:22 AM
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The video shows the trajectory of the plane in those 3 videos are different. How does playing the videos in realtime change that? If the trajectories are different, changing the speed of the videos won't change that.

The trajectory is the same IF you compare them in real-time. They only seem different because someone altered the playback speed.

The plane banked and did a shallow dive (or decent, if you prefer). Leveled out and hit the building. What you see is an optical illusion of contradictory flight paths. Once you slow down the skyline tape it takes it completely out of context. It appears in this shot that the plane flies straight in ONLY because it picks up the plane after it levels off and it plays it's approach in slow motion, when the other angles are still dropping in real-time. It seems like three different flight paths when in fact it is all the same one. It also gives the impression that the plane is traveling far slower than it actually was.

That is called fakery and you guys are doing it, not the government from what I can see.


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