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Old 24 Jul 2010, 07:34 PM
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Default Julian Assange: "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11"

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His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? "I believe in facts about conspiracies," he says, choosing his words slowly. "Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It's important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there's enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news." What about 9/11? "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/li...-14880073.html
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http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-2...oyed-911-truth
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 10:55 PM
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What better way to catch

What better way to catch whistle blowers & contain leaks than to secretly become THE ' place you can trust ' to reveal the secrets to the world? Of course ,it would be necessary to expose some small potato scandals (easily fixed by rolling a few low level heads) in order to maintain your reputation,but they could then be pointed to as evidence that your legit. 911 is my litmus test & he fails. I predict Wikileaks will NEVER report anything other than small,easily fixed 'scandals'. Anyone who 'leaked' anything big or important to them would disappear & you'd never hear about. It sort of looks like a sting operation to me. Just my opinion.
Submitted by waitew on Fri, 07/23/2010 - 12:38am
So when we were being all worked up a couple of months ago with promises of some "explosive" stuff... what did we get ?
Bugger all really. Just a video which at worst ....with certainty..... could have been interpreted as some troops jumping the gun, so to speak.
What came of the 911 text messages?.... nothing I know of.

We've all heard the espionage movie scenario.... computer hacker gets busted.... avoids jail by landing high paid job to work for the CIA...... Until he shows otherwise, I'll just be critical and say that he's solved nothing, and being that he's offered nothing "explosive" there is no reason to accept in blind good faith that he is not 'with them' instead of 'against them'.

The guru of leaks has said that 'for 911 there are no leaks and none are expected'. ..'The party is over'.... Hasn't he?
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Anyone interested in getting the truth out would be encouraging others to duplicate their efforts and making themselves expendable...he seems more interested in making himself center of the universe...so I smell an agent!
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only a few months ago we were hearing about agents following wiki leaks members around... how much pressure/threats do people need before they crumble?

it could be more a case of self censorship by threat then set up from day one although that would not surprise me under the scenario that the cia/nsa know there are loose ends and loose tongues that only need a environment shift to start waggling. what better way then to set up a rebel website that is seemingly imposable to stop or trace? then you close the trap once you have had enough traffic.

anyway, its anyone's guess at this stage.
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http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-2...comment-235535

On June 21st I met Julian Assange at a seminar organized by the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe. He was a bit jet-lagged after just flying in from Sydney, but still seemed like an easy-going cosmopolitan traveler. He was standing in the entrance of the European Parliament in the company of a very special and likable politician – Icelandic poet and artist, former Punk-singer now Icelandic Parliament member Birgitta Jonsdottir ( http://joyb.blogspot.com )

I noted that Julian Assange was well versed in the security passes needed to get into certain meetings of the European Parliament. I believe it was during the press conference for the seminar " (self) censorship; new challenges for freedom of expression in Europe " that Belfast Telegraph reporter Matthew Bell had the chance to ask him that question. I had slipped in to this press conference almost by accident, as I was early for the hearing that was about to take place. I remember the question, and it is funny that at the time, the answer to the question “What about 9/11” didn’t shock me more than it did, when he answered it cautiously. The quote from the Belfast Telegraph reporter could be a journalist’s short-hand of Assange’s answer. As I recall it, he tip-toed around the question, indeed saying that there were many established facts about government lying that WikiLeaks could contribute, showing black-on white how we are manipulated into war and mass financial fraud. I do not recall Assange using the words: “false conspiracies such as 9/11” because that would have profoundly revolted me.

This being said, I do not have the audio of the press conference: it should be available somewhere. It is possible that I could have repressed hearing such an absurdity from Assange’s mouth. Now that I think back about it, it could be he said “un-proven theories”, and already that IS bad enough!

Both he and Birgitta Jonsdottir were like hero’s to me, but I agree entirely that, after 9 years of serious citizen investigation, like that done by www.911Truth.org or www.911Blogger.com , the issue of 9/11 IS the ultimate litmus test to see if a journalist / politician is informed, and working for a better understanding of reality, or a victim/perpertrator of the Mighty Wurlitzer supidification meme that high-rises pulverize with their occupants in New-York due to barbaric Muslims high-jacking airplanes with box-cutters.

As a participant citizen in a hearing entitled: "(self) censorship; new challenges for freedom of expression in Europe" http://www.alde.eu/en/details/?no_ca...ash=137ca875fb fumbling a bit awkwardly to find the right words, I tried to steer the discussion to the issue of 9/11 : see my own intervention at 2 hours 26 min on this video link of the full seminar: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xds...ession-in_news ( watch at 2:26:00 ).

I will send this link to Birgitta Jonsdottir, who is still a hero to me, even if I do not recall any of her thoughts on September 11th 2001. How many sitting politicians do you know who write poems like this: Cry from the Heart

Birgitta Jonsdottir would be as inspiring as Cynthia Mc Kinney to me if she also gave full support to the WeAreChange 911Truth Citizen movement of the World. I believe she hasn’t arrived there yet, because she lives in a Scandinavian “duck-pond” mentality where people just don’t do such dastardly things as a psychological ware-fare operations killing 3000 of its own citizens to put the country in a State of Emergency due to “external attack”, and implement a phony “War on Terrorism”.

Julian Assange, with a broader back-ground in government lies, should know better: he should come clear about any remark he would have done implying that September 11th 2001 being a government inside job “is not proven”. It is clearly proven by peer-reviewed scientific journals proving the use of tons of expensive Pentagon High-Tech sol-gel-nano-thermate, and the collective scientific opinion as expressed by more than 1200 architects and engineers on the excellent site of www.AE911Truth.org

I still tend to believe Assange is passionate about his work, but if you’re out to leak some essential documents, there is no need to only go via WikiLeaks. The Icelandic Media Initiative is on a good way towards realization, and the Swedish Pirate party is also setting up a site with Parliamentary immunity and secrecy to ensure that the internet stays a source of information and freedom of expression and thought.

Best regards from Brussels, Belgium,

Dr Eric Beeth

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Old 28 Jul 2010, 01:24 PM
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Angry I'm more than annoyed

Well I'm more than annoyed with Mr Assange.

The remarks about 9/11 were made to the journalist, Matthew Bell of the Belfast Telegraph, after Julian Assange's talk at the Centre for Investigative Journalism at the University of London on the weekend of 9 to 11 July 2010. However, I still find Dr Beeth's comment (post above) interesting as he refers to Mr Assange's "cautious" response to questions about 9/11 two weeks earlier.

Major credit to Hereward for this post on 27 May 2010: Julian Assange: information warrior or gatekeeper?

"I've been vacuuming up as much information as I can about Julian Assange since he exploded into the mainstream talk show circuit.

The interview above with Phillip Adams is interesting in a number of ways. Firstly, as many truthers know, dear old Phillip is one of our most bigoted and intractable gatekeepers, yet here is is having a heart to heart with Julian.

During the interview Julian makes a curious statement. He says that the alternative media is "worse" than the mainstream media."

Good post by Able on 23 May 2010: Julian Assange ''Right now we are sitting on history-making stuff'' - http://www.theage.com.au/national/ke...ml?from=age_sb

Mr Assange's links to the cult "The Family" makes interesting reading.

So I guess we now know why Mr Assange has been receiving so much positive mainstream news coverage. I don't believe that he is uninformed or in denial. Assuming the quote is correct, this asshole is our enemy.

Could Julian Assange have been misquoted?

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